
Approaching the news from distinctly different points on the political spectrum, host Mike Pesca, and a rotating group of panelists, attempt to change each other's minds on the most important stories of the day. Often unsuccessfully. Between the non-stop election cycle and torrents of cancellations (real or imagined), there is a ton to argue about. But don't worry. In the end, they're NOT EVEN MAD... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 41 | Founded | 4 years ago |
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Today on the Gist, Mike is joined by Sarada Peri, former speechwriter for President Obama, and Sarah Isgur, senior editor at SCOTUSblog and author of Last Branch Standing, for a new installment of Not Even Mad. The trio discusses the Virginia redistr... more
Today on a Not Even Mad, Mike is joined by political writer John Ganz and Reason's Nick Gillespie to debate whether the ceasefire with Iran is a strategic victory for the regime or a result of Donald Trump's bellicose rhetoric. The trio analyzes the ... more
Today on a Not Even Mad edition of The Gist, Mike is joined by political scientist Yascha Mounk (The Good Fight) and Colin Cole, director of policy outreach and communications at More Equitable Democracy and host of The Future of Our Former Democracy... more
Jeff Nussbaum and Dan Rothschild debate the Iran war's shaky public support, the administration's failure to make a clear case for sacrifice, and whether the mission is deterrence, regime change, or just another round of mowing the lawn. Then they tu... more
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I don’t generally like political / politically-adjacent podcasts. I feel like we already spend too much time engaging with politics. But I really like Mike and so gave this show a chance. I’m glad I did. It’s smart, funny and often unexpected. I’m looking forward to seeing how this show evolves.
I love hearing Pesca’s guests disagree. It means they actually say the things that need to be said for America to move forward. And Mike does a great job of guiding the convo when things might be veering off the rails (I’m looking at you Anthony Weiner). Love this show.
Outstanding podcast. Interesting to hear people that I disagree with express their opinions eloquently and respectfully. Always surprising to get more evidence that “libertarian” is simply a euphemism for “selfish”.
Discussions without rancor by people with different points of view. I wish this was the norm for media but it isn’t, unfortunately. Thankfully, there’s Not Even Mad to model how to argue a point like a mensch.
I stopped listening early because I wasn’t enjoying the discussion among the originating trio. Sorry to see it end just as others began to engage with Mike in the podcast I was hoping for… a Left, Right, and Center with Mike as the center. And if it were to come back as a less ideologically pure Political Gabfest instead, with a more invested set of co-panelists, I’m here for it.
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A sharp, civically minded roundtable that hosts a rotating panel to dissect the day's biggest political stories from diverse perspectives. Episodes frequently center on messaging, governance, policy outcomes, and the media's role in shaping public opinion, with guests ranging from veteran speechwriters and policy researchers to journalists and political commentators. The format emphasizes respectful disagreement, practical takeaways for policymakers and brands, and a willingness to challenge conventional narratives. Noteworthy elements include nuanced debates about immigration, governance, and democracy, plus a track record of inviting insider perspectives that illuminate how political decisions get communicated and perceived by the public.... more
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