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Approaching the news from distinctly different points on the political spectrum, host Mike Pesca, and a rotating group of panelists, attempt to change each other's minds on the most important stories of the day. Often unsuccessfully. Between the non-stop election cycle and torrents of cancellations (real or imagined), there is a ton to argue about. But don't worry. In the end, they're NOT EVEN MAD... more

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Michael A. Cohen, author of the Truth and Consequences newsletter, and Charles Fain Lehman, Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, debate the capture of Nicolas Maduro and whether Marco Rubio is positioning himself as the "Governor General of Latin Ameri... more

Anthony Weiner and John Ketcham break down a Congress being flayed by its own fringes, where the "crazies" sometimes deliver the sharpest institutional critiques. They then assess Pete Hegseth and the possible release video of a lethal Caribbean boat... more

Mike Pesca welcomes back Nick Gillespie (Reason Magazine) and first-time guest Russ Muirhead (Dartmouth professor and New Hampshire State Rep.) for a spirited debate that is—we swear—not even mad. Today, we look at the half-full autocratic glass: Doe... more

Brad Carson (Americans for Responsible Innovation) and Charles Lehman (Manhattan Institute / City Journal) dig into the shutdown endgame, Schumer's calculus, 2026 vibes, and why data centers might be a sleeper issue. They argue affordability vs. "aff... more

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Recent Guests

Anthony Weiner
Former Congressman who served New York's ninth congressional district
Episode: EP 32 | Anthony Weiner & John Ketcham
John Ketcham
Legal Policy Fellow and Director of Cities at the Manhattan Institute
Manhattan Institute
Episode: EP 32 | Anthony Weiner & John Ketcham
Nick Gillespie
Editor at large of Reason Magazine, host of the Reason Interview with Nick Gillespie podcast.
Reason Magazine
Episode: EP 31 | Russ Muirhead & Nick Gillespie
Russell Muirhead
Co-director of the Political Economy Project at Dartmouth, member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives, and author.
Dartmouth College
Episode: EP 31 | Russ Muirhead & Nick Gillespie
Damon Linker
Senior lecturer in the Political Science Department at the University of Pennsylvania and writer for Notes from the Middle Ground.
University of Pennsylvania
Episode: EP 29 | Steve Hayes & Damon Linker
Steve Hayes
CEO and editor of The Dispatch.
The Dispatch
Episode: EP 29 | Steve Hayes & Damon Linker
James Kirchick
Author of Secret City, frequent contributor to Politico, and to the New York Times opinion pages
Politico
Episode: EP 26 | Michael A. Cohen and Jamie Kirchick
Josh Barrow
He of the very serious sub stack and the host of the Serious Trouble podcast.
Serious Trouble podcast
Episode: EP 25 | Galen Druke and Josh Barro
Galen Druke
The proprietor of GD Politics, a former 538 stalwart.
GD Politics
Episode: EP 25 | Galen Druke and Josh Barro

Host

Mike Pesca
Host of Not Even Mad, renowned for his engaging and humorous discussions on political topics, often showcasing a range of perspectives.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 230 ratings
  • Smart & Entertaining

    I don’t generally like political / politically-adjacent podcasts. I feel like we already spend too much time engaging with politics. But I really like Mike and so gave this show a chance. I’m glad I did. It’s smart, funny and often unexpected. I’m looking forward to seeing how this show evolves.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jonathanlaw99
    United States6 months ago
  • Pesca makes it possible to have a real conversation

    I love hearing Pesca’s guests disagree. It means they actually say the things that need to be said for America to move forward. And Mike does a great job of guiding the convo when things might be veering off the rails (I’m looking at you Anthony Weiner). Love this show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PDXHamsterCat
    United States9 months ago
  • Libertarians are wild

    Outstanding podcast. Interesting to hear people that I disagree with express their opinions eloquently and respectfully. Always surprising to get more evidence that “libertarian” is simply a euphemism for “selfish”.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ytfrschimfah
    United States10 months ago
  • I’m so glad you’re back

    Discussions without rancor by people with different points of view. I wish this was the norm for media but it isn’t, unfortunately. Thankfully, there’s Not Even Mad to model how to argue a point like a mensch.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ShaneFergusson
    United Statesa year ago
  • Wish the host rotation happened sooner

    I stopped listening early because I wasn’t enjoying the discussion among the originating trio. Sorry to see it end just as others began to engage with Mike in the podcast I was hoping for… a Left, Right, and Center with Mike as the center. And if it were to come back as a less ideologically pure Political Gabfest instead, with a more invested set of co-panelists, I’m here for it.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    debh
    United States3 years ago

Listeners Say

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Overall, listeners have shown appreciation for the show's commitment to civil discussion and the exploration of various viewpoints in a polarized climate.
Some have criticized the podcast for a perceived lack of a unified focus among the rotating hosts, preferring a more consistent format.
Listeners appreciate the intelligent discourse and dynamic discussions that manage to mix humor with serious political analysis.
Many express a fondness for the lively debates between panelists, valuing the respectful exchange of differing opinions.

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Talking Points

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EP 32 | Anthony Weiner & John Ketcham
Q: Can you cite an example when you were in Congress of a Democratic Congress stopping the powers or standing up for their prerogatives against a Democratic president?
The appropriation committee has historically protected spending power; resistance to a president occurred when any rescission effort was made.
EP 29 | Steve Hayes & Damon Linker
Q: Do you think it's a problem?
Yes, it's a problem primarily for the reasons that you suggest.
EP 16 | Anthony Weiner and Nick Gillespie
Q: How are voters reacting to scandals surrounding candidates in the current NYC mayoral race?
Voters may be more focused on their pressing urban issues rather than the personal scandals of the candidates.
EP 16 | Anthony Weiner and Nick Gillespie
Q: What do you think about Chuck Schumer's strategy?
Chuck Schumer might have made the right calculation to prevent a government shutdown during politically precarious times.
EP 19 | Austin Berg & Eric Zorn
Q: What do you think? So primaries, are they?
Austin suggests increasing turnout is essential and discusses voter apathy resulting from the timing of low turnout elections and possible reforms to the primary system.

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The content revolves around the contentious and often humorous exploration of current political events and societal debates through engaging discussions. The host and rotating panelists provide diverse perspectives on topics ranging from congressional actions and the implications of foreign policies to immigration and free speech debates. Frequent guests contribute to the lively tone, encouraging disagreements and varied viewpoints that enrich the conversation. This dynamic environment showcases not only serious political analysis but also moments of levity, making it appealing to those interested in an accessible yet thought-provoking take on contemporary issues.

Notably, the format combines the intensity of political discussions with a ... more

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