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Welcome to the Mountain Cloud Zen Center "in the Cloud" podcast. Here, we'll be sharing our weekly Teisho's exploring classical Zen Koans, offered by Mountain Cloud teachers, and some guest teachers. Additionally, we have a conversation series, titled Path(less), which explores the "pathless path" of practice and life. Please consider supporting Mountain Cloud Zen Center through donation and membe... more

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What a pleasure and a privilege to sit down with Henry Shukman for a conversation in the Study at Mountain Cloud. Henry's app, The Way, is a single-path meditaton program designed to bring the depth of traditional practice into the digital age. He's ... more

Many of us come to spiritual practice because of a persistent feeling that there's something wrong—something off about us or about the world. Perhaps we struggle with loneliness or a sense of alienation. Perhaps we crave intimacy but are afraid to ge... more

A real joy chatting Light Watkins from his home in Mexico City. Light's latest book, The Year You Transform, is a wonderfully practical guide to how small, daily behaviors can have truly transformative power.

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Henry Shukman
Zen master in the Sambo Zen lineage; award-winning poet and author; co-founder of The Way app
Sambo Zen; The Way
Episode: Path(less): Henry Shukman
Vanessa Zuisei Goddard
Zen teacher, guiding teacher for Ocean Mind Sangha
Ocean Mind Sangha; Mountain Cloud Zen Center
Episode: Teisho: "Walking Into Wholeness" with Vanessa Zuisei Goddard
Light Watkins
Author and meditation teacher, proponent of spiritual minimalism
Author of Bliss More, Knowing Where to Look; meditation teacher
Episode: Path(less): Light Watkins
Sarah Giffin
Executive Director, Mountain Cloud Zen Center
Mountain Cloud Zen Center
Episode: Path(less): Sarah Giffin
Eric Zimmer
Author, behavior coach, interfaith spiritual director, host of The One You Feed
Author and podcast host
Episode: Path(less): Eric Zimmer
David Loy
Zen teacher and author, teacher-in-residence for Mountain Cloud Zen Center
Mountain Cloud Zen Center
Episode: Dharma Talk: "Touching the Earth" with David Loy
Elena Brower
Global yoga/meditation teacher, author, and Zen student
Zen practice at Upaya Zen Center; chaplaincy program graduate
Episode: Path(less): Elena Brower
Shana Smith
Assistant Zen teacher; leads the Florida Sambo Zen Sangha in Gainesville, Florida
Sambo Zen Sangha; Mountain Cloud Zen Center (guest teacher)
Episode: Teisho: "The Circle Game" with Shana Smith
Tias Little
World-renowned teacher, scholar of Eastern philosophy, co-founder of Prajna Yoga (Santa Fe)
Prajna Yoga
Episode: Path(less): Tias Little

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Grant Goulet
Host of the show, guiding conversations and teisho presentations; affiliated with Mountain Cloud Zen Center.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 117 ratings
  • Peaceful + Insightful

    This is such a grounding, calming, and insightful podcast. Each episode offers thoughtful teachings and reflections that feel accessible, no matter your level of experience with Zen. Great interviews with interesting guests - I love it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    k.a.y.l.a.m.a.r.i.e
    United States4 months ago
  • Henry is a gift

    The insight that Henry Shukman is able to express can do wonders. How he speaks on consciousness and our reality is a joy to listen too and he can make zen even more interesting than it already is. Not to mention, killer radio voice

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KelpQueso
    United States5 years ago
  • Thank you Henry.

    Can you go deeper Zen and put this podcast on Spotify please. It would be ultra zen if you did this

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Louis Gordon green
    New Zealand5 years ago
  • Reluctant teacher

    At times, insight and wisdom are just the threshold... standing at the door, it is love that will lift the latch and invite you in for tea.

    These talks are a true joy, a combination of scholarship, common sense and falling in love with the world over and over... The dharma is presented in a way that is fully relatable and filled with humility. If for no other reason, I listen to these podcasts for the moments that you can HEAR the sound of delight and wonder in a candlelit room. Thank you... I... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cbox
    United States6 years ago
  • Excellent

    Very much enjoying these dharma talks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dr Double E
    United States6 years ago

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The host fosters a gentle, curious tone that makes Zen accessible to newcomers and practitioners alike.
Guests are presented with practical applications of deep Zen principles, often tied to real-world challenges.
Listeners describe the conversations as grounding, insightful, and compassionate.

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Teisho: "Walking Into Wholeness" with Vanessa Zuisei Goddard
Q: Can you share thoughts on regret and life choices, and how to live with them peacefully?
Regret arises from the split between our desires and what practice asks of us; the path is to acknowledge the split, allow for grieving what is lost, and continue to act wholeheartedly, knowing that choices can be reoriented without wasting the previous effort.
Path(less): Henry Shukman
Q: What was your guidance system as you navigated multiple roles—musician, writer, teacher, Zen master—and how did you stay oriented toward a horizon?
A soulful pull toward landscape, poetry, and human connection acted as the guiding thread, gradually clarified through friendships, travel, and meditation; curiosity and long-term devotion to practice kept pulling him toward a life that felt freer and more in harmony with his evolving values.
Path(less): Henry Shukman
Q: Henry, how do you think about the circumstances of life being either support or misaligned for a spiritual path?
Life circumstances can be supportive when they reveal what matters most to us and encourage alignment with deeper values; they can also feel misaligned, but Zen teaches that true nourishment comes from returning to our true nature, which can reframe how we relate to external conditions.
Path(less): Light Watkins
Q: And how did meditation in the fashion world begin to translate into a broader inner shift for you?
Light shares that meditation started as a doorway through yoga and later evolved into a consistent internal practice, shifting from struggle to an effortless, present-focused approach.
Path(less): Eric Zimmer
Q: So maybe let's start with how it came into your life.
Eric describes his early exposure to Zen through a science teacher at an alternative school, how recovery and the 12-step path drew him back to Buddhism, and how Zen kept resurfacing as a guiding influence during different life phases.

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A contemplative, conversation-driven series exploring Zen practice, koans, and the pathless path in daily life. Episodes feature teisho talks from Mountain Cloud Zen Center teachers and in-depth conversations with guest teachers, weaving classical Zen themes—emptiness, non-duality, and embodiment—with ecological and social engagement. Notable strengths include a clear, practical approach to applying Zen principles offline (relationships, grief, resilience) and a recurring emphasis on inquiry, curiosity, and living practice over attainment. The format blends traditional Dharma talks with modern, accessible explorations of practice, inviting listeners who seek mindful, philosophically grounded guidance for everyday challenges.

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