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Money 4 Nothing

Money 4 Nothing
Music Industry
Hip Hop
20-Year Anniversary Album Tours
Millennials
Tiktok
Spotify
Nostalgia
Patreon
Imagine Dragons
Live Concerts
Social Media
Generative AI
AI and Copyright Law
Universal Music Group
Living Wage For Musicians Act
RIAA
Suno
Udio
Streaming Economy
BMI

A podcast on music and capitalism. Dropped bi-weekly. money4nothing.substack.com

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In the wilds of music streaming lurk eldritch terrors—perhaps few more strange, preposterous, and sanity-shattering than “the Spotify Billions Club,” a constantly updated list of tracks that have well and truly hit the big time. We pierce the post-te... more

There’s been a conspicuous uptick in the past decade of billionaires buying up media companies. Elon and Twitter. Bezos and the Washington Post. Laurene Powell Jobs and The Atlantic. Forbes, Fortune, LA Times and a slew of other major newspapers are ... more

What is the value of music? We often think of this question in economic terms, but it doesn’t always have to do with money. After all, there’s a value difference between someone strumming a guitar at home, playing in a band, or trying to land a major... more

Daniel Ek, overlord of Spotify, recently lead an investment round of $600+ for a private German defense tech company. Despite Ek having invested in this kind of military technology since 2021, it seems to have suddenly reached everyone’s attention. A... more

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Recent Guests

Timothy D. Taylor
Author of 'Making Value, Music, Capital and the Social'
Duke University Press
Episode: What is the Value of Music?
Franz Nicolay
Author of "Band People: Life and Work in Popular Music," exploring band dynamics and the music industry.
University of Texas Press
Episode: Every Band is a Foreign Country (With Franz Nicolay)
Liz Pelly
Author of Mood Machine and music industry critic
Episode: Spotify Culture (Featuring Liz Pelly + David Turner)
David Turner
Music journalist and former editor of Penny Fractions.
Episode: Spotify Culture (Featuring Liz Pelly + David Turner)
Andrew Duard
Assistant professor of media and popular culture at UCSD, author of Derivative Media
University of California, San Diego
Episode: Financializing Everything (W/ Andrew deWaard)
Holiday Kirk
Editor of NÜmetal Agenda and CEO of NÜ Metal, known for revitalizing interest in the genre.
Crazy Ass Moments in NÜ Metal History
Episode: NÜ METAL FOREVER (w/ Holiday Kirk)
Kevin Erickson
Director of the Future of Music Coalition
Future of Music Coalition
Episode: Taking on Ticketmaster (W/ Kevin Erickson)
Amy Coddington
An assistant professor of music at Amherst College and author of the book, How Hip Hop Became Hit Pop
Amherst College
Episode: How Hip Hop Conquered the Charts (feat. Amy Coddington)
Monia Ali
Writer of Fandom Exile substack, exploring the culture and business practices behind fandom.
Fandom Exile
Episode: Embracing Our Fandom (W/ Monia Ali)

Hosts

Saxon Baird
Co-host of Money 4 Nothing, Saxon brings insights from his research and passion for music, focusing on critical discussions around music and capitalism.
Sam Bakker
Co-host of Money 4 Nothing, Sam engages in dialogues that examine the intricate relationships between music, culture, and the economy.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 46 ratings
  • So good!

    I run a small independent electronic music label, and the attention Sam and Saxon pay to the financial side, something not every music fan may obsess over, is so refreshing. Nothing is obscured, but nothing is oversimplified. It’s made me feel both sane and inspired. Thanks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Taylor Fixed Rhythms
    United States3 years ago
  • Raising the Right Questions

    I just stumbled on this podcast by searching for Damon Krukowski—I like his writing, and was curious to see if he’d been interviewed about the music industry during COVID. These guys had a good conversation with him, and I’m eager to dig into more of the earlier episodes. They are raising the right questions. Keep up the good work.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LibertyOrDeathToday
    United States3 years ago
  • Big return on investment

    Money for nothing made my music biz stock skyrocket

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    abstinancydrew
    United States4 years ago
  • A peek

    A peek under the hood of the culture that shapes us. We really are enjoying the golden age of podcasting with shows like this.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Prof Simon
    United States4 years ago
  • Awesome pod!! A must for music nerds

    This is a real gem! I love hearing the guys intricately navigate through a unique landscape of topics related to the music biz. So many nooks and crannies explored that have been otherwise overlooked. 5/5..hoping for a lot more content like this!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Big Cat from BK
    United States4 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the in-depth exploration of topics often overlooked in music discussions.
Audience members enjoy the blend of academic insights and personal narratives shared by guests.
Listeners commend the hosts' ability to navigate complex issues in an approachable manner.
Many find the discussions both enlightening and engaging, providing a unique angle on music and culture.
The podcast is praised for its refreshing perspective on the financial aspects of the music industry.

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What is the Value of Music?
Q: What led you to this book or this project?
It was a deepening dissatisfaction with conventional discussions of music as purely a commodity, leading to a desire to explore broader contexts of value and music.
Embracing Our Fandom (W/ Monia Ali)
Q: When we're talking about fandom in this context, what are we talking about exactly?
Fandom encompasses not only those who buy merchandise but also the communities formed around artists, revealing their deeper connection with the music industry and how it manipulates fan enthusiasm for profit.
Are you Ex-Sphere-enced?
Q: Is The Sphere a win for the arts?
Opinions vary; while it may be tacky and obnoxious, it does provide a high-end venue for arts and performance which could be considered a win.
Are you Ex-Sphere-enced?
Q: What will happen in the next couple of years regarding the role of the artist?
There could be a situation where the artist becomes entirely secondary to the immersive experience that venues like The Sphere provide.
NÜ METAL FOREVER (w/ Holiday Kirk)
Q: How has the perception of NÜ Metal changed over the years?
It has transitioned from being a commercially successful genre to one that is often dismissed by critics, despite its cultural impact and innovations.

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What is Money 4 Nothing about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Exploring the intersection of music and capitalism, this podcast engages listeners with insightful discussions on the evolving landscape of the music industry. Featuring a variety of guests, ranging from authors to music critics, episodes cover pressing topics such as the commodification of music, streaming culture, and the ethical implications of major platforms like Spotify. The hosts navigate complex ideas with depth, making intricate subjects accessible while encouraging listeners to consider the broader societal impacts of music in our capitalist framework. This podcast is particularly notable for its critical examination of industry norms and its unique approach to uncovering underrepresented narratives about musicians and the busines... more

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