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Tech Won't Save Us

Paris Marx
Generative AI
Elon Musk
Data Centers
Artificial Intelligence
Silicon Valley
Social Media
Openai
Microsoft
Digital Sovereignty
Climate Change
Tech Industry
Google
Donald Trump
Peter Thiel
Streaming Services
Technology
Fossil Fuels
Spotify
Trump Administration
United States

Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. I... more

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Lula has made history as the first candidate to win a presidential election despite losing the first round of voting, all while Meta seemed to be putting its thumb on the scale for his far-right competition. Laís Martins joins Paris Marx to discuss t... more

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No one is comfortable with police surveillance in the US, which is why there’s a bipartisan backlash to Flock cameras. Jason Koebler joins Paris Marx to discuss the rise of Flock, how their cameras are being pitched by right-wing politicians and poli... more

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Hyperscale data centers are not an inevitable infrastructure, but a product of capitalist financialization pushing us further from a livable future. Ingrid Burrington interviews Paris Marx about his new book Hyperscale, discussing the history behind ... more

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Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing str... more

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Recent Guests

Jason Koebler
Co-founder of 404 Media and co-host of the 404 Media Podcast
404 Media
Episode: Why Communities Want to Stop Flock Cameras w/ Jason Koebler
Ingrid Burrington
Author of Networks of New York and host of RIP Corp, writing about internet infrastructure for over a decade.
Episode: Too Much Computer: Ingrid Burrington discusses Hyperscale with Paris Marx
Martha Dark
Co-executive director of Foxglove
Foxglove
Episode: Taking Data Centers to Court w/ Martha Dark
Laís Martins
Technology reporter at The Intercept Brasil
The Intercept Brasil
Episode: Brazil’s Data Center Boom is Enabled by Renewables Firms w/ Laís Martins
Ketan Joshi
Climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo
Independent researcher / climate groups
Episode: The AI Buildout is a Boon for the Fossil Fuel Industry w/ Ketan Joshi
Ali Alkhatib
Former head of the Center for Applied Data Ethics at the University of San Francisco
University of San Francisco
Episode: Data Vampires Redux: Sacrificing for AI (Episode 3)
Dan McQuillan
Lecturer at Goldsmiths, University of London; author of Resisting AI
Goldsmiths, University of London
Episode: Data Vampires Redux: Sacrificing for AI (Episode 3)
Alex Hanna
Director of Research at the Distributed AI Research Institute
Distributed AI Research Institute
Episode: Data Vampires Redux: Sacrificing for AI (Episode 3)
Sasha Luccioni
Co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer at Sustainable AI Group
Sustainable AI Group
Episode: Data Vampires Redux: Sacrificing for AI (Episode 3)

Host

Paris Marx
Technology journalist and author of Hyperscale

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 2.9k ratings
  • smart AND pretty

    Stop doing video appearances for the book tour, you're way too cute and charming. It's too distracting from your serious journalism and I already have enough parasocial situationships.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    liminalinterstice
    United States23 days ago
  • Great podcast

    Always illuminating, Paris and team really cut through the fawning propaganda of the tech press and Silicon Valley. Tech won’t save us really is a gem of show. Thank you for your energy and passion.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cwhaggarty
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Well rounded and well researched

    The podcast does a great job picking a variety of topics in the tech industry and the guest is always well informed on the topic. Paris does a great job as a host, bringing good knowledge about the topic but also curiosity and truly engaging in the conversation.

    This had been a great add to my podcast rotation list!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    maxandthepurpledinos
    Canada5 months ago
  • Real information

    Amazing podcast

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jesseb1
    United States6 months ago
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Listeners praise Paris Marx as a knowledgeable, composed host who connects technology to wider political and social questions.
Many value the research and expert guests, especially the scrutiny of Silicon Valley claims and technology-industry hype.
Listeners appreciate the range of topics and the conversational format, though some find verbal filler or lengthy setups distracting.
Some reviewers criticize the political framing as one-sided, while others consider its critical perspective central to the program.

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#122
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Why Communities Want to Stop Flock Cameras w/ Jason Koebler
Q: What are we seeing on that front with how this is being used against protestors and people who would already be targets of police when they try to push back on things that the government is doing that they're not okay with?
Koebler says reporting linked Flock searches to No Kings protests, and a Flock employee demonstrated ways to monitor protests using the company's systems. He adds that federal fusion centers have monitored anti-Flock activists and their social media.
Why Communities Want to Stop Flock Cameras w/ Jason Koebler
Q: What can this actually be used for if it's not just for license plates as the name suggests?
Koebler describes Flock's people-focused video cameras, automated drones and Flock OS, which can combine license plate readers with public and private camera feeds and use AI to search footage.
Too Much Computer: Ingrid Burrington discusses Hyperscale with Paris Marx
Q: How do you make the case for a more democratic approach to allocating computation and computational resources without relying on shame?
Marx argues for offering a positive alternative. People may find it hard to leave platforms because of their convenience, social connections, engaging design, network effects, and the limited time they have to change their habits. He sees resistance to data centers and frustration with AI and social media as openings to build a more democratic vision of technology.
Too Much Computer: Ingrid Burrington discusses Hyperscale with Paris Marx
Q: What led you to turn the data center work into a book, and what can a book do that a podcast cannot?
Marx wanted a new subject after his previous book and saw data centers becoming a pressing issue as communities faced their impacts and the industry planned further expansion. He also valued a book's ability to sustain an argument over a longer period.
How Mass Layoffs Changed Working in Tech w/ Clarissa Redwine & JS Tan
Q: How do you see the organizing happening around AI, and are we seeing organizing happening at the AI companies themselves?
JS Tan says employees at AI labs and major cloud companies have organized around military uses of AI, including autonomous weapons and domestic mass surveillance. He argues coding agents are changing software work by deskilling workers and absorbing their tacit knowledge, while Redwine points to campaigns at Kickstarter and Meta where workers resisted AI-related automation and data extraction.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Tech Won't Save Us

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Weekly interviews hosted by technology journalist Paris Marx examine how the tech industry's promises connect to politics, labor, public services, and the environment. Conversations with journalists, researchers, organizers, legal advocates, and policy experts focus on issues such as AI, data centers, surveillance, worker power, and the influence of technology companies on public life. The approach is skeptical of claims that technology is neutral or inevitably beneficial, and it gives substantial attention to who bears the costs and who gains power.

The format centers on a new guest and a focused discussion, with occasional series that bring together several expert perspectives. Rather than concentrating on product news or technical tutor... more

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8. Alex Hanna

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