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M&A Science

Kison Patel
Mergers and Acquisitions
M&A
Private Equity
Corporate Development
Due Diligence
Integration
Dealroom
Integration Strategies
M&A Strategy
M&A Integration
Integration Planning
Artificial Intelligence
Buyer-Led M&A
Healthcare
Roll-Up Strategy
Corporate Strategy
Leadership
Value Creation
Investment Banking
M&A Strategies

M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice. Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Scie... more

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Days before closing a carve-out, Danielle Fortier's team found the seller's vendor list was off by dozens of vendors. Danielle, a partner at Cooley with four corporate carve-outs closed this year, explains why: back-office vendors are shared across e... more

"Never use the word 'trust me.' It's those people you can't trust." Jerry Cedicci, Kison Patel's boss from twenty years ago, built hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate, cafes, hotels, and restaurants. This is his playbook.

For Jerry, trus... more

"At the closing table, I left with a check of $10 million." Jerry Cedicci bought a run-down Chicago hotel for $14 million and sold it for $24 million within a year.

Jerry grew up in a French orphanage and arrived in the US in 1981 barely speaking E... more

A $100 million preferred equity check with a 15% compounding floor needs $200 million back in five years, and all of it sits ahead of the producers holding common equity.

Bill Johnson grew Liberty to $250 million in revenue in seven and a half year... more

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Recent Guests

Jerry Cedicci
Real estate developer who built hundreds of millions in property
Independent real estate developer
Episode: The Man Who Taught Kison Patel to See M&A Opportunities
Bill Johnson
Founder, Chairman and CEO at The Liberty Company Insurance Brokers
The Liberty Company Insurance Brokers
Episode: Why PE Rollups Fail the People Who Built the Business
Kim Jones
HR M&A leader with experience at Microsoft and ServiceNow
Microsoft; ServiceNow
Episode: Why M&A Integration Fails Without Leadership Enablement
Praveen Ghanta
Founder and CEO of devhawk.ai
devhawk.ai
Episode: The Seller's Power Shift: How to Defend Valuation After the LOI
Richard Chow
Partner at PJT Partners
PJT Partners
Episode: The Discount Is the Wrong Question in Private Equity Secondaries
Bill Stone
Founder and CEO of SS&C
SS&C
Episode: How to Finance Acquisitions Without Giving Up Equity
Aaron Binstock
Partner, Co-head of the private equity practice at Cooley; focuses on private equity, M&A and complex corporate transactions
Cooley LLP
Episode: Where AI Actually Helps and Fails in M&A Legal Work
Jennifer Lipschultz
Senior Director of M&A Integration and Corporate Project Management
ECI Software Solutions
Episode: The Back-Office Surprises Nobody Warned You About When Going Global
Derek Liu
M&A partner at Baker McKenzie, San Francisco
Baker McKenzie
Episode: How to Structure an Acquihire Deal in the AI Talent Race

Host

Kison Patel
Host of the show, Chief Scientist at M&A Science

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 340 ratings
  • Must listen podcast

    Amazing content!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Blck mamba
    United Statesa year ago
  • Awesome

    10 stars, learn a lot every podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    anxnsodkcoapsjdj
    United Statesa year ago
  • Insight

    This is a must for anyone in or considering M&A. Passion and intellect on display!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barry LaBov
    United States2 years ago
  • Love the podcast!

    Love the quality of questions asked

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MathildeCant
    India2 years ago
  • #1 M&A podcast ever

    This is the best podcast that talks about mergers and acquisitions, real life experiences and transaction stories! Subscribe, listen, and repeat! Highly recommended.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jeanny Dobby
    Philippines3 years ago

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The show is seen as a go-to resource for practitioners wanting to level up M&A execution and culture.
Guests praised for depth and practical wisdom across diverse deal scenarios.
Listeners praise concrete, actionable takeaways and real-world deal stories.

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#100
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

How to Finance Acquisitions Without Giving Up Equity
Q: How do you think about capital allocation when about to do a large deal, and what levers do you use to assemble the financing?
You combine cash flow visibility, debt capacity, and selective equity partnerships. We've used banks and internal cash flow to service debt, while pursuing equity partnerships only when they align with preserving control and enabling faster value creation through synergies.
220 Deals. One Playbook. How to Scale M&A Without Losing Control
Q: How do you approach diligence and what's the balance between quantitative and qualitative due diligence when scaling?
Shawn stresses that qualitative factors like location, asset quality, culture, and recruitment capability are as important as the financials, and should inform forecast accuracy and value realization.
220 Deals. One Playbook. How to Scale M&A Without Losing Control
Q: What does an operating model look like that makes this volume of deals possible?
He emphasizes alignment from the board to the front line, a clear playbook covering all stages, and a team structure designed for volume with rapid decision-making and the ability to kill deals that don't meet criteria.
220 Deals. One Playbook. How to Scale M&A Without Losing Control
Q: Can we kick off with a little bit about your background?
Shawn outlines his path from biochemistry to corporate development, highlighting the discipline, work ethic, and appetite for continuous learning that underpins his approach to scaling and deal execution.
How to Buy Companies That Aren't Profitable Yet
Q: What is the role of relationship-building in successful buyer-led M&A versus pure auctions?
Relationship-building enables direct dialogue with investors and founders, which helps you address risk, tailor deal structures to stakeholders, and move beyond perceived fair market value. It also creates trust that allows for difficult conversations about risk tolerance, retention, and post-closing responsibilities.

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What is M&A Science about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A practical, practitioner-focused show that unpacks real-world M&A challenges through in-depth conversations with senior corporate development leaders, lawyers, bankers, and operators. Episodes cover structuring deals, integration, talent retention, cross-border considerations, and buyer-led strategies, often with actionable frameworks, playbooks, and memorable war stories. The format consistently emphasizes transparency, data-backed storytelling, and culture as a driver of value, making it a valuable resource for professionals looking to tighten due diligence, improve post-close execution, or build scalable M&A capability. A notable strength is the breadth of perspectives—from Fortune 500 teams to Nordic compounders and private equity—deli... more

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Recent guests on M&A Science include:

1. Jerry Cedicci
2. Bill Johnson
3. Kim Jones
4. Praveen Ghanta
5. Richard Chow
6. Bill Stone
7. Aaron Binstock
8. Jennifer Lipschultz

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