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Lunch Hour Legal Marketing

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Are you hungry for more clients? Tired of wasting time (and money) on marketing that doesn’t work? This podcast serves up real-world tips and proven digital marketing strategies that actually drive results for law firms. Hosted by Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam—two legal marketing pros who’ve been in the trenches. You’ll get practical advice on client acquisition, website teardowns, and what’s act... more

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Stephanie Everett hadn’t tried a case in 10 years. Then her housekeeper got hit with a frivolous dog bite suit, so Stephanie used AI to get up to speed on Georgia dog bite law and won.

Recording live at 8am’s Kaleidoscope conference in Las Vegas, Gy... more

Gyi and Conrad are traversing the globe to answer your questions. Listen in to this rousing Q&A session featuring real attorneys and legal marketers—whose inquiring minds probably have the same questions you do.

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Conference season is here, and Gyi and Conrad are hitting the road. Before they head to the last ever Great Legal Marketing Summit, they’re replaying one of their favorite interviews, recorded at last year’s event with Dr. Cain Elliott of Filevine.

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Gyi and Conrad have seen their fair share of scummy actors online, and they have both experienced targeted attacks on their Google Business Profiles. What’s a business owner to do?

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Vandalism, libel, fake reviews… yikes. In today’s online busi... more

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Recent Guests

Cain Elliott
Filevine skunkworks leader and former philosophy professor
Filevine
Episode: Conference Season Rewind: Our Best AI Conversation with Filevine’s Dr. Cain Elliott
Daniel Powell
Litigator focused on internet defamation
Mink Law
Episode: Legal Recourse for Online Vandalism – Can Anything Be Done?
Hometown Lawyer
Guest on Office Hours segment, live from Hamilton, New York/Ohio
Hometown Lawyer practice
Episode: Muckraking, Lovable, and Why Nobody Cares About Your Firm's LinkedIn Page
Andy Seavers
CEO, founder of Case Status
Case Status
Episode: Super Customer Experience Powers – Live from CX Summit
Chris Nelson
Represents CallRail
CallRail
Episode: CallRail's New Tricks (Yes, We're Pandering, But Hear Us Out)
Josh Porte
Attorney, Holland & Knight; co-lead of Legal Services Transactions Team
Holland & Knight
Episode: Conversations From 'A Seat at the Table', Part II: Ethics, Money, and the Art of the MSO Deal
Rio Lane
Representative sharing insurer perspective, Alps Insurance
Alps Insurance
Episode: Evaluating AI for Law Firm Marketing – We Haven’t F#&%’ed with Scorpion for Ages
Matt Schwartz
Co-founder of BluFyre Media
BluFyre Media
Episode: Outside the Box: A Bigfoot Costume and a $50 Million Bet
David Schwartz
Co-founder of BluFyre Media
BluFyre Media
Episode: Outside the Box: A Bigfoot Costume and a $50 Million Bet

Hosts

Gyi Tsakalakis
Host of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing; specialized in legal marketing and SEO
Conrad Saam
Co-host with practical legal marketing and strategy expertise

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 83 ratings
  • The BEST Legal Marketing Podcast

    If a lawyer asked me what podcast they HAD to listen to for legal marketing advice this would absolutely be the podcast I recommend.

    Gyi and Conrad keep it real, they share openly, they are humorous, they update you on legal marketing in the news, with tactical and strategic advice you never learned in law school, and are so good looking you should watch this podcast on YouTube. 😉

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Delisi Friday
    United States2 months ago
  • Imagine being this smart/funny/handsome at once

    Running a law firm takes so much adulting. It’s crazy. And then you have to find clients for the firm?? Crazy.

    What a gift Gyi and Conrad are to this space. They’re both possessed of great vibes and big brains. This show gives practical counsel without talking down to you. It meets firm owners where they are and advises with honesty and empathy. I’m proud to know these guys. Great show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MikeWhelanJr
    United States2 months ago
  • My favorite legal business podcast

    This podcast is as educational as it is entertaining. I particularly appreciate as a small firm owner how it helps me understand the broader legal market and the large firm side of my industry, but also has tactical information that I can implement to grow my firm. I particularly enjoyed the recent episode going back to basics on branding. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Allyson Kitchel
    United States5 months ago
  • No-Fluff Legal Marketing

    The Lunch Hour Legal Marketing podcast delivers no-fluff insights for law firms that want real growth. Gyi & Conrad keep it sharp, fun, and focused on what actually drives cases. Perfect for those who value execution over theory.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Chris Dreyer
    United States6 months ago
  • Invaluable

    It is difficult to express how important LHLM has been to the growth of my practice. The advice given is invaluable and I am indebted to these guys.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Willis Disability Lawyer
    United States8 months ago

Listeners Say

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Feedback highlights practical, no-fluff advice and actionable tactics for growing law firms.
Listeners appreciate candid, transparent critiques of AI and marketing vendors.
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Ask Away! Gyi and Conrad Field Your Questions
Q: How do you track AI rankings?
Gyi Tsakalakis explains that services automate prompts and scrape AI responses, but the results vary and the platforms provide limited reporting. The hosts argue that this type of tracking poorly reflects real client behavior and recommend investing in brand recognition, useful content, client experiences and community relationships.
Ask Away! Gyi and Conrad Field Your Questions
Q: Have you got any updates on the fake Google business profile listings?
Conrad Saam says the hosts found patterns of suspicious profiles with dubious addresses, AI-like images and videos, and questionable reviews. Many profiles they identified later disappeared. The hosts argue that the listings can harm consumers and legitimate firms, and call on lawyers and communities to report deceptive conduct.
Conference Season Rewind: Our Best AI Conversation with Filevine’s Dr. Cain Elliott
Q: Can I log in the chat, can I be in ChatGPT, and teach ChatGPT to tell people about my firm?
No. Elliott says large language models are stateless, so a conversation does not change the model's knowledge for later users. Firms may affect future outputs through other factors, such as their web pages and backlinks, but cannot retrain a model by chatting with it.
Conference Season Rewind: Our Best AI Conversation with Filevine’s Dr. Cain Elliott
Q: What's the best way that you can describe how exactly this AI technology works?
Elliott explains neural networks using an example of identifying a hamburger: systems detect features and patterns, then use statistical probabilities to predict what an object or word is.
Legal Recourse for Online Vandalism – Can Anything Be Done?
Q: Walk me through pragmatically, timeline, costs. I remember our conversations, you were like, this is going to cost a bunch of money and we might not get anywhere. So you're making a business decision. This is a problem, I'm not standing, I'm going to make a business decision. What am I looking at from a timeline perspective? What am I looking at costs? I mean, what does that look like just for the listener?
Powell says defamation limitation periods are short, often one year, and the initial work to obtain platform data commonly costs $10,000 to $15,000. Additional subpoenas, motions to quash, or further litigation can add time and expense.

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The show focuses on practical, no-nonsense legal marketing tactics, with frequent deep dives into branding, digital strategy, intake optimization, and measurement. Episodes often feature candid discussions about AI tooling, multi-channel attribution, and the economics of growth for law firms, balanced by real-world anecdotes and guest perspectives from marketing agencies, lawyers, and tech providers. A notable strength is its willingness to critique hype (AI, vendor promises) while offering repeatable frameworks and actionable tips for firm owners and marketers to drive measurable results, often with a personable, irreverent banter that makes complex topics approachable.

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1. Cain Elliott
2. Daniel Powell
3. Hometown Lawyer
4. Andy Seavers
5. Chris Nelson
6. Josh Porte
7. Rio Lane
8. Matt Schwartz

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