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Join Dr. Jon Genzen, professor of pathology with the Spencer Fox Eccles School of Medicine at the University of Utah and chief medical officer at ARUP Laboratories, as he explores the people, ideas, and innovations that shape the clinical lab community.

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Laboratory billing is a complex and often challenging aspect of healthcare, yet appropriate reimbursement is essential to sustain operations and support high-quality patient care. In this episode of LabMind, Ashley Zarling, director of Business Devel... more

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Vaccination has been at the forefront of public discourse in recent years, yet the role of clinical laboratory testing in evaluating vaccination status has been largely overlooked. In this episode of LabMind, Dr. Patricia Slev, professor of Pathology... more

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Clinical laboratories play a critical role in patient care while also generating substantial waste, including single‑use plastics, paper, and e-waste. In this special Lab Week episode of LabMind, we sit down with Dr. Joseph Wiencek, associate profess... more

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The doctorate in clinical laboratory science (DCLS) is designed to address critical practice needs involving high-complexity CLIA laboratory directorships and effective laboratory representation with clinical services across the health system. This e... more

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Recent Guests

Ashley Zarling
Director of Business Development and Marketing at Doc Lab
Doc Lab
Episode: An Interview With Ashley Zarling: Navigating the Complex World of Laboratory Billing
Patricia Slev
Medical Director of Immunology at ARUP Laboratories; Professor at University of Utah
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Episode: An Interview With Dr. Patricia Slev: Laboratory Evaluation of Vaccine-Induced Immunity
Dr. Joe Wiencek
Associate Professor of Pathology, Microbiology, and Immunology at Vanderbilt University Medical Center; Service Line Medical Director of the Core Laboratory
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Episode: An Interview With Dr. Joe Wiencek: Reducing Waste in Clinical Laboratory Testing
Dr. LaShanta Brice
Scientific engagement and clinical education scientist at Diagnostica Stago
Diagnostica Stago
Episode: An Interview With Drs. LaShanta Brice, Melody Nelson, and Kacy Peterson: How the DCLS Adds Value and Laboratory Leadership
Dr. Melody Nelson
Assistant clinical professor and assistant director of Core Laboratory
University of Kansas Medical Center
Episode: An Interview With Drs. LaShanta Brice, Melody Nelson, and Kacy Peterson: How the DCLS Adds Value and Laboratory Leadership
Dr. Kacy Peterson
Director of laboratory optimization and clinical integration; laboratory service line administrator
Avera Health
Episode: An Interview With Drs. LaShanta Brice, Melody Nelson, and Kacy Peterson: How the DCLS Adds Value and Laboratory Leadership
Christine Cliatt Brown
Assistant professor in the Division of Cognitive Neurology at the University of Utah Health
University of Utah Health
Episode: An Interview With Drs. Christine Cliatt Brown and Heather Nelson: Diagnostic Testing and Therapeutics Making a Difference for Patients With Alzheimer’s Disease
Heather Nelson
Faculty member in the Department of Pathology and medical director of Clinical Chemistry and Mass Spectrometry at ARUP Laboratories
ARUP Laboratories
Episode: An Interview With Drs. Christine Cliatt Brown and Heather Nelson: Diagnostic Testing and Therapeutics Making a Difference for Patients With Alzheimer’s Disease
Danny Diaz
Senior Director of Clinical Application Services at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
Episode: An Interview With Danny Diaz: The Power of Resilience

Hosts

Dr. Jon Genzen
Host of LabMind; Professor of Pathology and Chief Medical Officer with affiliations to ARUP Laboratories and the University of Utah
Dr. Brian Jackson
Host of LabMind; Leader in clinical pathology and laboratory leadership with ARUP Laboratories and University of Utah affiliations

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 38 ratings
  • Always Thought Provoking

    Content covered in these podcasts is always thought provoking, useful, and interesting. Dr. Jackson does a masterful job of finding the value in every perspective.

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    5
    paulepete
    United States6 years ago
  • Antibody tests

    Excellent podcast from late April. Is there a follow up planned, especially addressing the issue of protective immunity?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    La Canada Mom
    United States6 years ago
  • Informed and well explained

    Really appreciated the information on COVID testing. Finding there is a lot of information out there to sift through and it’s nice to hear it from people who are experts in this field. Will be sharing to some fellow co-workers and friends to help them understand why the delays in testing

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    klhead
    United States6 years ago

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Listeners praise clarity on complex topics like testing and guidelines.
Guest lineups provide diverse expertise across diagnostics, policy, and technology.
Thoughtful discussions with practical takeaways for lab operations and leadership.
Content is health-lab focused and educational, with insights useful for sponsorships targeting medical and lab audiences.
Episodes appear to balance technical detail with real-world impact.

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An Interview With Ashley Zarling: Navigating the Complex World of Laboratory Billing
Q: If you had a magic wand, what changes would you make to the current system?
Ashley would push for more transparency and standardized policies among payers; reduce the black box nature of billing, and ensure that all parties play by the same rules with accessible standards.
An Interview With Ashley Zarling: Navigating the Complex World of Laboratory Billing
Q: How is artificial intelligence changing the billing landscape?
AI can automate administrative tasks, route requests, and support prior authorizations, but must be supervised by humans to avoid producing unsupported or fraudulent appeals; AI is a tool that speeds work if used carefully.
An Interview With Ashley Zarling: Navigating the Complex World of Laboratory Billing
Q: Do most labs manage billing in-house or do they hire outside help, and when should a lab consider third-party billing?
Most labs use third-party billing groups because the field is complex and resource-intensive; in-house billing is possible but expensive and risky, and labs should match their choice to growth stage and risk tolerance.
An Interview With Ashley Zarling: Navigating the Complex World of Laboratory Billing
Q: Were there any mentors who guided you in this transition?
Ashley credits an early employer who started an in-house billing team and allowed for significant mentorship, enabling her to lead and innovate within the space for years.
An Interview With Ashley Zarling: Navigating the Complex World of Laboratory Billing
Q: Is there a typical career pathway for someone who wants to go into lab billing?
There are two routes: a standardized path through schooling in medical billing and a more common, hands-on route where people start in entry-level roles at labs or providers and learn on the job, sometimes obtaining a coder certification later.

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What is LabMind about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on laboratory medicine, clinical workflows, and leadership in pathology and related fields, with episodes spanning waste reduction in clinical labs, the impact of advanced degrees like the DCLS, diagnostic advances for Alzheimer's, resilience in healthcare IT, and stewardship and guidelines in transfusion medicine. Guests range from senior lab leaders and clinicians to researchers and educators, offering practical strategies, policy insights, and real-world case studies that help labs improve patient care, efficiency, and readiness for emerging challenges. The program often highlights interoperability between lab science and the broader health system, advocacy for health equity, and the evolving role of the laboratory in gu... more

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