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KFF's The Business of Health with Chip Kahn

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Artificial Intelligence
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Generative AI
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Chip Kahn
Health Policy
Health Care Industry
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John Halamka
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Value-Based Care
Mayo Clinic
University Of California, San Francisco
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This weekly podcast features insightful conversations between host Chip Kahn and his guests, who discuss the business of health care, connecting the dots between the health care business, policy, and patients.

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How do we know if AI use in health care actually makes patients better? Chip talks with Dr. David Bates — a veteran physician leader at Mass General Brigham and the Brigham and Women's Hospital and Co-director of the Center for Artificial Intelligenc... more

Is AI Better for patients? What is changing on the ground? Chip talks with Dr. Patrick Conway, Chief Executive Officer of Optum, a health services and technology business under parent company, UnitedHealth Group. They discuss how to ensure the health... more

How is AI applied to clinical care and hospital operations across a real health system at full scale? Chip Kahn talks to Dr. Michael Schlosser, Senior Vice President and Chief Transformation Officer at HCA Healthcare, about how AI is developed for ev... more

What does AI mean for patients in bed and doctors at the bedside? Host Chip Kahn and guest Dr. Robert Wachter, Chair of the Department of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, discuss whether AI will produce a different kind of doc... more

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Recent Guests

Patrick Conway
CEO of Optum, former CMS regulator and policymaker
Optum / UnitedHealth Group
Episode: Is AI Better for Patients?
Michael Schlosser
Senior Vice President and Chief Transformation Officer
HCA Healthcare
Episode: AI at Scale: Does It Deliver?
Bob Wachter
Chair, Department of Medicine at UCSF; author of The Digital Doctor and A Giant Leap
University of California, San Francisco (UCSF)
Episode: AI: As Much Peril As Promise?
Elad Walach
Co-founder of Aidoc, AI in radiology
Aidoc
Episode: When Minutes Matter, What Is AI’s Role?
John Halamka
President of Mayo Clinic Platform
Mayo Clinic
Episode: What AI Can Do — And What It Can’t
Eric Larsen
President of Towerbrook Advisors and member of health-care leadership at Towerbrook Capital Partners; AI/wellness strategist
TowerBrook Capital Partners
Episode: Health Care’s AI Disruption, Ready or Not
Drew Altman
President and CEO of KFF
KFF
Episode: Why KFF Is Launching a Podcast on the Business of Health

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Chip Kahn
Host of The Business of Health with Chip Kahn

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Is AI Better for Patients?
Q: What keeps you up at night about AI in health care, and how do you address concerns about patients falling through the cracks?
The guest mentions a concern about patients becoming unserved; he believes AI and technology can help by improving visibility into the whole population and ensuring care across physical, mental, pharmacy, social, and financial needs, while maintaining clinician oversight to prevent gaps in care.
Is AI Better for Patients?
Q: How much is AI contributing to the clinical side, especially diagnostics and care coordination?
AI contributes significantly by supporting clinicians with documentation (ambient listening), suggesting clinical decisions, and guiding care pathways. It enables auto-approval in many cases and helps route patients to the right clinician or setting, with ongoing clinician oversight for care-direction changes.
Is AI Better for Patients?
Q: Given the 91-year-old patient example, how broad-based is the integrated platform and how widespread are these approaches?
The platform is already sizable and national, serving millions across many payers, with expansion into rural and diverse settings. The approach aims to scale value-based care across the system, not just in isolated pockets, using data and technology to guide care.
Is AI Better for Patients?
Q: How is the investment in AI going and what is the evidence that it will be transformative?
The guest argues AI will transform the business. They are moving from pilots to scaling across admin tasks and clinical workflows, with multiple use cases categorized (administrative, products/services, and clinical). The emphasis is on faster, more seamless operations and on improving patient care, with evidence coming from faster approvals, better alignment of incentives, and measurable improvements in care delivery.
AI at Scale: Does It Deliver?
Q: What are the biggest risks or challenges as you scale AI?
The biggest risks are change management, adoption, and ensuring not to overwhelm users with alerts; we build in safety nets for models, monitor drift, and maintain human oversight to manage the gaps between pilots and full-scale implementation.

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This show bridges health policy, health care delivery, and the business side of health care through in-depth conversations with leaders shaping policy, industry finance, and clinical practice. Episodes frequently explore AI's impact on care delivery, hospital economics, regulation, and workforce dynamics, often featuring guests from major health systems, policy organizations, and health tech companies. Noteworthy is the recurring focus on objective analysis and data-driven insights, with discussions spanning governance, reimbursement, and the balance between patient access, cost, and quality. Fans likely appreciate thoughtful, policy-forward storytelling that connects frontline realities with market and regulatory forces, and they may be dr... more

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