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It Means What It Means

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Colossians Remixed
Disability Theology
Honor Culture
Trauma
Disability
Aquinas, Thomas
Satan
Olivet Discourse
Dead Sea Scrolls
Latter-Day Saint Tradition
Book Of Judith
C.S. Lewis
The Bible
Revelation, New Testament
Hanukkah
Book Of Ezekiel
Markan Priority
Synoptic Gospels
Well-Being
Hospitality

A podcast in which a guy with “some college” and a day job asks experts questions about biblical studies.

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The conversation begins with an introduction and catching up, followed by a discussion on the inspiration behind the book. The guest shares personal and vocational drives that led to the writing of the book, and the concept of the geometric Bible and... more

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The conversation delves into the field of textual criticism, focusing on the ECM project and its methodology. It explores the significance of textual criticism for the average reader of the Bible, the input process and computer approaches, the challe... more

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The conversation explores the concept of beauty, the intersection of disability and eschatology, and the gospel ethic of the body. It delves into the narrow cultural ideals of beauty, the diverse embodiment in the eschaton, and the neural embedding o... more

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The conversation delves into the story of 1 Samuel 25, exploring the themes of honor culture and the wisdom of Abigail. It provides insights into the dynamics of honor, loyalty, and the transfer of possessions in ancient biblical times. The conversat... more

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Recent Guests

Joshua Berman
Scholar of biblical studies, Professor of Bible
Bar-Ilan University
Episode: Abigail and Her Honor Culture Wisdom with Joshua Berman
Derek Estes
Contributor to Disability Theology and Eschatology
Pepperdine University (Assistant Professor of Ethics and Religion)
Episode: For the Beauty of Glory with Derek Estes
Hillel Mali
Scholar of Bible and Second Temple literature, Bar-Ilan University
Bar-Ilan University
Episode: Noah's Sacrifice with Hillel Mali
James Vanderkam
Guest expert discussing RH. Charles and his work
Scholar, author of the RH. Charles biography
Episode: RH Charles and Modern Biblical Studies with James VanderKam
Joseph Scales
Author of Responsibility for Murder (Journal of Biblical Literature)
Journal of Biblical Literature / academic researcher
Episode: Responsibility for Murder with Joseph Scales
Alexiana Fry
Biblical scholar and author
Episode: Esther Keeps the Score with Alexiana Fry
James McGrath
Biblical studies scholar
University (as discussed)
Episode: Beyond Deconstruction with James McGrath
Ryan Stokes
Author of The Satan, How God's Executioner Became the Enemy
Episode: Episode 123: The Satan with Ryan Stokes
Leslie Baynes
Author of Between Interpretation and Imagination: C.S. Lewis and the Bible
Missouri State University
Episode: Episode 122: Between Interpretation & Imagination with Leslie Baynes

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Jared Thomason
Host of It Means What It Means; facilitator of scholarly interviews with biblical studies experts.

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Episode 102: Under Her Wings with Jennifer Houston McNeel
Q: Why do you think Paul employs maternal language despite being male?
Because maternal imagery often conveys nurturing, influence, and relational guidance—traits that fit the way Paul engaged with communities and sought to shape them, even without legal authority.
Episode 102: Under Her Wings with Jennifer Houston McNeel
Q: What inspired you to write a book about motherhood in the New Testament?
My own experience as a mother deepened my curiosity about how biblical texts use maternal imagery, and my academic work on Paul's letters revealed how these images functioned within early Christian communities.
Episode 112: On Having a Body with Jennie Grillo
Q: Do you think God has a body in Genesis?
The consensus here is nuanced: the biblical text shows instances of embodied language and anthropomorphic depictions, but it does not reduce God to a single, physical body the way we understand human embodiment; there are plays of continuity and discontinuity across sources and passages that resist a simple 'God has a body' label.
Episode 121: Trinitarian Missiology in Revelation with Michael Naylor
Q: So can we just get started? How did this chapter land in your lab?
The chapter was approached with a flexible definition of missiology, allowing contributors to explore mission in diverse ways rather than enforcing a rigid, one-size-fits-all framework.
Episode 117: Hospitality as the End and Means of Mission with Edward Smither
Q: Before we get going, will you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Edward Smither explains his role as a professor and dean at Columbia International University and his background in intercultural ministry, including North Africa and France, setting up his lens for discussing missiology and hospitality.

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The show features in-depth conversations with biblical scholars and theologians, covering ancient texts, interpretation, and how historical perspectives shape modern belief. Recent episodes span topics like honor culture in biblical narratives, disability and eschatology, Second Temple reinterpretations of Noah, and the evolution of biblical interpretation from RH. Charles to contemporary debates on Revelation, Esther, and Luke. Guests routinely bring university-level expertise, offering rigorous close readings, manuscript history, and cross-cultural context, while the host guides the discussion with accessible explanations and practical implications for readers, clergy, and teachers. A notable strength is the breadth of scholarly perspecti... more

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