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No hot takes. No empty platitudes. No easy hope. Just real talk about how we hold onto our humanity, build something better—and maybe even laugh along the way. Bring snacks. Bring questions. We're figuring this out together.

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2025 is finally over! In this week's episode, Nora and Marcus take stock of a year that felt like two cursed decades duct-taped together, and ask the real question: what do we keep? Enter Alex Gallo-Brown, a labor organizer, poet, and the campaign ma... more

Holiday breather this week, but no skipping the brain food. We're re-airing Marcus's live Town Hall Seattle conversation with historian Heather Cox Richardson, and somehow it's more relevant now than when it was recorded.

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This week, Nora and Marcus sit down with Renée Hopkins, CEO of the Alliance for Gun Responsibility, to talk about a grim reality we're supposed to pretend is normal: gun violence that's killing kids every day while politicians offer therapeutic plati... more

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This week, Marcus and Nora wade through the Trump awards circus, billionaire media custody battles, and the administration's petty racism before calling on Dr. Ralina Joseph, author of Racial Exhaustion: How to Move Through Racism in the Wake of DEI.... more

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Recent Guests

Heather Cox Richardson
Professor of History at Boston College, expert on American political and economic history, and author.
Boston College
Episode: Ep 31: We've Been Here Before and We Made it Out with Heather Cox Richardson
Renée Hopkins
Executive director of the Alliance for Gun Responsibility
Alliance for Gun Responsibility
Episode: Ep 30: Turning Outrage into Action with Renée Hopkins (Encore)
Dr. Ralina Joseph
Vice Provost of Inclusive Excellence and Professor of African-American Studies at UCLA
UCLA
Episode: Ep 29: Racial Exhaustion : A Field Guide for the Overwhelmed with Dr. Ralina Joseph
Anand Pandian
Krieger Eisenhower Professor of Anthropology at Johns Hopkins University
Johns Hopkins University
Episode: Ep 28: The Call Is Coming From Inside the Gated Community with Anand Pandian
Peniel Joseph
Historian, author, and professor of history at the University of Texas at Austin.
University of Texas at Austin
Episode: Ep 26: The Past that Won't Stay Past with Peniel Joseph
Charles Douglas III
Executive Director of Common Power, focused on civic education and engagement.
Common Power
Episode: Ep 23: Beyond Election Day with Charles Douglas III
Nadine Bloch
Activist, artist, puppetista, strategic non-violent organizer, and training director of Beautiful Trouble
Beautiful Trouble
Episode: Ep 22: Making Revolution Irresistible with Nadine Bloch
Byron Sigcho-Lopez
Alderman representing the 25th Ward in Chicago and chair of Chicago's Housing and Real Estate Committee.
City of Chicago
Episode: Ep 21: Chicago Is Not A War Zone with Alderman Byron Sigcho-Lopez
Maggie Mertens
Writer, journalist, and editor; author of Better, Faster, Farther
Episode: Ep 20: Democracy Dies in Clickbait with Maggie Mertens & Sarah Stuteville

Hosts

Nora Kenworthy
Co-host and passionate advocate for civic engagement and social justice, encouraging dialogue focused on community-building and personal narratives.
Marcus Harrison-Green
Co-host with emphasis on political commentary and social critique, fostering critical discussions around activism and community dynamics.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 12 ratings
  • Beautiful Pod by Empathetic People

    Always excited by MHG projects. This is an incredible dive into how we think and look at life and the politics around us.

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    Local Guide Seattle
    United States6 months ago

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Ep 30: Turning Outrage into Action with Renée Hopkins (Encore)
Q: What steps can individuals take to address gun violence?
Renée emphasizes voting, contacting elected officials regularly, and supporting local organizations as impactful actions.
Ep 30: Turning Outrage into Action with Renée Hopkins (Encore)
Q: How does your lived experience with gun violence shape your advocacy?
Renée shares how losing her brother in a school shooting shaped her urgency in addressing gun violence and understanding its impact on communities.
Ep 29: Racial Exhaustion : A Field Guide for the Overwhelmed with Dr. Ralina Joseph
Q: What can be done to foster critical conversations about race across different communities?
Dr. Joseph advocates for radical listening and radical speaking, encouraging individuals to stay in difficult discussions instead of retreating to comfort zones.
Ep 29: Racial Exhaustion : A Field Guide for the Overwhelmed with Dr. Ralina Joseph
Q: What is racial exhaustion and how did you come to write about it?
Dr. Joseph defines racial exhaustion as a growing fatigue in discussing race, which became apparent during the political climate post-2016, and she felt compelled to articulate this concept in response to the fatigue she observed in communities.
Ep 26: The Past that Won't Stay Past with Peniel Joseph
Q: What did 1963 teach us about the fights for civil rights and dignity?
Joseph discusses how the year was marked by significant advancements and retaliatory violence and how the narratives from that time still resonate with current struggles.

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