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How do we lead with purpose, make better decisions, and navigate an uncertain future? On If/Then, Stanford GSB faculty break down cutting-edge research on leadership, strategy, and more, exploring enduring questions and the forces reshaping business and society today, from AI to geopolitics. Hosted by senior editor Kevin Cool.

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Chad Jones, a professor of economics at Stanford Graduate School of Business, recently published a paper, “AI and Our Economic Future.” Using more than 100 years of economic data, he modelled several potential AI-infused economic futures we may exper... more

“Friction for us has to do with obstacles,” says Hayagreeva “Huggy” Rao, a professor of organizational behavior at Stanford Graduate School of Business. “Obstacles can disable you. Obstacles can enable you.”

Rao compares friction to cholesterol: Som... more

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“I don’t see things like anybody else,” says Jonathan Berk, a professor of finance at Stanford Graduate School of Business. “And so I can see things people don't see.”

On this episode, Berk explores recent research that pushes against conventional ... more

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“When people come to view attitudes and opinions towards, say, political policies or issues as relevant to their identities, they become more extreme in their attitudes,” says Christian Wheeler, the StrataCom Professor of Management and Professor of ... more

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Recent Guests

Huggy Rao
Professor of organizational behavior at Stanford Graduate School of Business
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Episode: The Art of Friction
Christian Wheeler
Professor of Marketing at Stanford Graduate School of Business
Stanford GSB
Episode: Why Who You Are Affects How You Think
Steve Callander
Professor of Public and Private Management at Stanford Graduate School of Business
Stanford Graduate School of Business
Episode: What We Actually Learn From Experience
Paul Oyer
Professor of Economics at Stanford Graduate School of Business
Stanford GSB
Episode: How Dating and Sports Explain the Job Market
Lisa Su
Chair and CEO of AMD
AMD
Episode: View From The Top: “Lisa Su Is Still Curious About How Things Work”
Deborah H. Gruenfeld
Social psychologist and professor of organizational behavior
Stanford Graduate School of Business
Episode: The Joy of Discovery and Why Research Matters
Rob Siegel
Venture investor and instructor at Stanford Graduate School of Business, author of 'The Systems Leader'.
Stanford Graduate School of Business
Episode: Think Fast, Talk Smart: "Ambiguity to Action: Tensions and Trade-Offs of Leadership and Communication"
Michele Gelfand
Professor of Organizational Behavior at Stanford Graduate School of Business and author of 'Rule Makers, Rule Breakers'
Stanford Graduate School of Business
Episode: Culture Still Eats Strategy For Breakfast
Anne Cromley
Sous chef in the cafe at Chez Panisse
Chez Panisse
Episode: Culture Still Eats Strategy For Breakfast

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Kevin Cool
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Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 57 ratings
  • Great material yet partially delivered by a half-robotic voice or Agent. Hard to be excited by it

    See above

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    Impoxtssibxo
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Great listen for Data/AI Enthusiast College Students

    Referred by the Me, Myself, and AI podcast team! Loved the connection. Thank you guys

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mika_Montonen
    United States2 years ago
  • Nice one

    Podcast Addict
    5
    elegantblend
    2 years ago
  • Thought provoking

    Fascinating concepts and interesting ways of pointing out how research applies to many facets of the business world. Great music

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jenny Luna
    United States2 years ago
  • Applicable insights, refreshingly grounded in research

    This podcast elegantly shares insights and implications drawn from the hard work of building new knowledge from the often-less-than-flashy world of tested research. This is a breath of fresh air to someone eager to be reminded of our capacity to study complexity and discover insights that transcend catchy narratives and myopic agendas. Such a fun listen!

    Apple Podcasts
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    J Hankes
    United States2 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the research-grounded insights and practical applications to leadership and business strategy.

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The Paradox of Masculinity
Q: What happens when you de-identify resumes in hiring processes, and how does that affect gender bias?
De-identifying resumes or using genderless cues reduces overt bias in hiring decisions for women, but people still infer gender when they imagine who is behind the resume, suggesting deeper, entrenched androcentric assumptions.
What We Actually Learn From Experience
Q: What is correlated learning?
Correlated learning is a framework where the outcomes of different choices are connected and learning occurs across those alternatives, allowing individuals and firms to use past experiences to inform future decisions in a structured way.
How Dating and Sports Explain the Job Market
Q: What can individuals do to stay valuable when AI can handle many routine tasks?
Individuals should focus on what they can do that a computer cannot do, continually update skills, and leverage human judgment and networks; staying adaptable and building relationships remains crucial as automation handles more routine work.
How Dating and Sports Explain the Job Market
Q: Speaking of labor economics, is there something about the dynamics of online dating that could tell us about how people do or don't get hired?
Yes. Both markets involve misrepresentation, signaling, and the incentive to improve one's position; people exaggerate on dating profiles and resumes, but signals must be credible, and networks help verify fit, so understanding these dynamics helps explain how people navigate hiring and dating markets.
What's Your Problem: "Teaching Computers to See"
Q: What led you to create ImageNet?
I realized that, especially algorithmically, we were like running in circles and not making enough progress. I decided to build a gigantic image database, which became ImageNet.

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Frequently Asked Questions About If/Then

What is If/Then about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on leadership, strategy, and decision-making through the lens of Stanford GSB research and real-world experiments. Episodes routinely explore how organizational design, identity, and behavioral science shape management decisions, with guests ranging from renowned professors to industry leaders. Notable strengths include pulling rigorous academics into approachable conversations, and featuring timely topics like motivation, friction in organizations, and the economics of the job market. The format often blends theoretical frameworks with concrete examples, making it useful for listeners who want actionable insights grounded in research. A standout aspect is the breadth of topics—from AI and geopolitics to leadership communi... more

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