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Forking Off

Forking Off
Department Of Justice
FBI
Public Service
Immigration Courts
John Cordle
Deferred Resignation
Trump Administration
American Governance
Rule Of Law
Federal Employees
Deferred Resignation Program
Deferred Resignation Offer
Due Process
Abrego Garcia Case
U.S. Navy
Los Angeles
Dallas Immigration Court
Government Service
CDC
Civic Engagement

A podcast by former feds who got the fork out of government service. In 2025, hosts and former FBI intelligence analysts Jill and Philip Fields joined the exodus of public servants leaving federal service under the deferred resignation program. Conflicted over what to do next, they began encountering other recently departed feds fighting to find their voice. They started Forking Off as a platform ... more

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Michael Duffin served as a senior policy advisor at the State Department's Bureau of Counterterrorism for 12 years. When he received an invite for a 15-minute meeting titled "Update on the Reorganization," he never suspected it would mark an early en... more

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Elizabeth Ginexi served as a scientific program official at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for 22 years. During that time, she stewarded taxpayer investments in biomedical and behavioral research. An applied social psychologist by training, ... more

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Alec Chapa found his ideal role as a conciliator with DOJ's Community Relations Service (CRS). From a young age, Alec was interested in bringing people together to talk through conflict. He was fascinated by Gandhi's strategy of civil disobedience. I... more

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Dan Tully left the U.S. Department of Commerce in protest of the administration's destructive foreign policy approach. Dan's background as a Judge Advocate in the Army Reserve gave him experience advising on counter-Chinese influence efforts in the I... more

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Recent Guests

Michael Duffin
Former Senior Policy Advisor, State Department; running for Congress in Virginia's 8th
Democratic candidate, Virginia's 8th Congressional District
Episode: Michael Duffin Advocates for Feds
Elizabeth Ginexi
Senior Program Officer at NIH, 22-year NIH veteran
National Institutes of Health
Episode: Elizabeth Ginexi Defends Science
Alec Chapa
Former conciliator at Community Relations Service, now runs Mosaic Collaborative Consulting
Mosaic Collaborative Consulting
Episode: Alec Chapa Builds Community
Dan Tully
Candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, Illinois; former federal civil servant
Running for Congress in Illinois
Episode: Dan Tully Talks Elections
Allan Dinkoff
Photographer working on a documentary project documenting federal civil servants under Trump
Independent project; International Center of Photography program
Episode: Allan Dinkoff Bears Witness
Kayla Staph
Former FBI special agent who dealt with national security, criminal cyber cases, and counter-terrorism.
Episode: Kayla Staph Stays True to Herself
Mike Romano
Former Prosecutor at the Justice Department
Justice Department
Episode: Mike Romano Represents the Best of Us
Nikki Rutman
Former FBI Intelligence Analyst and consultant helping former federal employees transition to the private sector.
Duck Cove Consultants
Episode: Nikki Rutman Believes in Unicorns
Madeline Velturo
Former civil servant specializing in violence prevention and conflict resolution.
Former Feds & Friends
Episode: Madeline Vellturo Teaches Resilience through Storytelling

Hosts

Jill Fields
Co-host and producer; former supervisory FBI intelligence analyst; focuses on ethics, civilian life after public service, and personal resilience.
Philip Fields
Host; former FBI intelligence analyst and public servant; discusses leadership, whistleblowing, and the transition out of federal service.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 8 ratings
  • Eye Witnesses

    Thank you for sharing the voices of eye witness testimony and documenting this history for generations to come.

    Apple Podcasts
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    ForReviewsToday
    United Statesa month ago
  • Echo chamber

    If you’re looking for a combination of whining/vocal fry with self congratulation, have I got a podcast for you.

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    United States3 months ago
  • Keep Speaking The Truth

    Great job you two. Keep it up.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PCAoperator
    United States8 months ago

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Some critics describe the show as occasionally negative or confrontational.
Mixed audience sentiment; some listeners feel the tone is critical of governance.
Positive feedback emphasizes honesty and strong hosting from the two leads.

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#136
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#178
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#212
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#234
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Michael Duffin Advocates for Feds
Q: How has the experience of leaving federal service shaped your campaign messaging?
Duffin emphasizes the human cost, the need for a seat at the table for federal employees, and the importance of countering the 'deep state' narrative with concrete policy and empathy.
Michael Duffin Advocates for Feds
Q: Why did you leave the State Department, and how did you end up running for Congress?
He explains being RIF'd during a reorganization, the difficulty of reentry, and his decision to run to advocate for federal employees and to help rebuild the government from within or through policy influence.
Michael Duffin Advocates for Feds
Q: What led you to join the State Department in the first place?
Duffin describes a post-9/11 awakening that drew him to public service after witnessing anti-Muslim protests and a desire to learn about the world and contribute his skills to national security.
Dan Tully Talks Elections
Q: Tell us about your background and what prompted you to run for Congress.
Dan discusses his military-legal experience, countering Chinese influence through the foreign assistance space, and his decision to leave public service in protest of current administration policies; he frames his run as an effort to restore the rule of law and push back on what he views as executive overreach.
Alec Chapa Builds Community
Q: Tell us about your job at the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service and what you did there.
He explains CRS as the mediation component of DOJ, focusing on community disputes, impartial facilitation, and the goal of creating channels for peaceful dialogue between local entities and federal officials.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Forking Off

What is Forking Off about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show profiles former federal employees who left government work under the deferred resignation program, sharing personal journeys, ethical questions, and what comes next after public service. Episodes center on whistleblowing, whistleblowing-related leadership struggles, integrity in government, and shifts in policy affecting agencies like the FBI, DHS, EPA, and USAID. Guests often discuss the human side of career transitions, resilience, and how public service values persist beyond official roles, sometimes pairing sharp critiques of governance with hopeful strategies for rebuilding impact. A notable strength is the candidness about internal culture, political shifts, and the friction between mission and leadership, which can offer li... more

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2. Elizabeth Ginexi
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4. Dan Tully
5. Allan Dinkoff
6. Kayla Staph
7. Mike Romano
8. Nikki Rutman

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