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Divergent States

Divergent States
Psychedelics
Mental Health
PTSD
Harm Reduction
Ibogaine
Research In Psychedelic Therapies
Community Engagement
Psychedelic Therapy
Microdosing
Opioid Addiction
Multidisciplinary Association For Psychedelic Studies
MDMA
Zendo Project
Personal Growth
Addiction Recovery
DMT
Burning Man
Psychedelic Science 2025
Neurodivergent Experiences
Shulgin Farm

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, skeptical conversations. Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest forum dedicated to the safe use of psychedelics, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show examines the science, culture, and contradictions shaping the psychedelic landscape.

No mysticism. No marketing. Ju... more

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes24Foundeda year ago
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In this episode of Divergent States, 3L1T3 sits down with Betty Aldworth, the new co-president of MAPS, as she steps into shared leadership with Ismail Ali following Rick Doblin’s four-decade run.

Betty brings decades of experience in drug policy re... more

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Dr. Bronner’s Cosmic Engagement Officer David Bronner joins Divergent States for a candid, nuts-and-bolts conversation about building an “All One” company culture, pushing for psychedelic policy reform, and rewiring global supply chains to be fair, t... more

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Psychedelics are no longer the fringe—they’re reshaping medicine, culture, and consciousness itself.

In this episode of Divergent States, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Joe Moore, co-founder and CEO of Psychedelics Today, to explore the messy evoluti... more

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Comedian, musician, and improvisational genius Reggie Watts joins Divergent States for an unfiltered deep dive into psychedelics, creativity, and consciousness. From jamming on LSD and mushrooms to experimenting with dissociatives and even the Apple ... more

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Recent Guests

Betty Aldworth
Co-president of MAPS, formerly led Students for Sensible Drug Policy, involved in Colorado's cannabis legalization
MAPS
Episode: Betty Aldworth: MAPS, MDMA, and the Battle Over Psychedelic Medicine
David Bronner
Chief Engagement Officer at Dr. Bronner's Soap, advocate for psychedelic healing and social activism.
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Episode: David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future
Joe Moore
Co-founder and CEO of Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today
Episode: Joe Moore on the Future of Psychedelics: From Underground to Mainstream
Reggie Watts
Comedian and musician known for his improvisation work and as a host on The Late Late Show with James Corden
Episode: Reggie Watts on Psychedelics, Creativity, and Consciousness
Kabir Nath
CEO of Compass Pathways
Compass Pathways
Episode: Compass Pathways: Independent Media Talks Psychedelic Medicine
Dr. Steve Levine
Chief Patient Officer at Compass Pathways and pioneer in Ketamine Therapy
Compass Pathways
Episode: Compass Pathways: Independent Media Talks Psychedelic Medicine
Paul F. Austin
Founder of Third Wave and Psychedelic Coaching Institute, pioneer in intentional psychedelic use
Third Wave and Psychedelic Coaching Institute
Episode: Paul F. Austin: Mastering Microdosing and Unlocking Human Potential
Amber Capone
CEO and co-founder of VETS, advocating for veterans treatment solutions
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Episode: Amber Capone: The Psychedelics Saving Veterans from PTSD
Dr. Anne Wagner
A clinical psychologist and research expert in MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD, founder of the Remedy Centre in Toronto.
Remedy Centre
Episode: Dr. Anne Wagner: Can MDMA Fix a Broken Marriage?

Hosts

Elite
Host and founder of the Psychonaut subreddit, Elite brings a deep understanding of the psychedelic community and emphasizes grounded conversations.
Bryan
Co-host and USMC veteran passionate about psychedelic healing, Bryan contributes valuable perspectives from his experiences and advocacy.
3L1T3
Host and founder of the Psychonaut subreddit, known for engaging discussions rooted in personal experiences and scientific exploration.

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Betty Aldworth: MAPS, MDMA, and the Battle Over Psychedelic Medicine
Q: What would your message be to those feeling crushed by this FDA decision?
It's tough to wait, but please hold on and continue to seek other effective treatments while being cautious.
David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future
Q: What does the world look like in the next decade if everything is achieved?
Hopefully, it will head toward more compassion and empathy, learning from past mistakes, unlike the current political climate.
David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future
Q: What would you say to other businesses? How could they follow more in your footsteps?
I think the problem a lot of mission-driven companies run into is financing. You need to be careful who you take money from.
William Leonard Pickard - The Acid King, the Rose, and the Return
Q: Do you think the current wave of psychedelic advocates really understand the gravity of what they're handling?
We are seeing mainstreaming with lots of new names and enthusiasm, but there is a danger of opportunists entering the field, and the issues of monetization protocols are concerning.
William Leonard Pickard - The Acid King, the Rose, and the Return
Q: What do you make of this shift of visibility?
It's difficult for me having lived a life of highly clandestine secrecy, and now being in public speaking about previously secret materials.

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Exploring the multifaceted landscape of psychedelics, this podcast discards mystical narratives in favor of evidence-based discussions about their effects on mental health, creativity, and society. With bold and critical insights, it navigates topics from clinical research to cultural dialogues, providing a platform for guests who contribute varied perspectives on the implications of psychedelics. Listeners can expect in-depth analyses, intriguing anecdotes, and a focus on lived experiences, allowing for a more nuanced understanding of these complex substances. The show aims to engage those seeking to understand psychedelics' true impact, free from the clutter of marketing and hype.

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