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Divergent States

Divergent States
Psychedelics
Mental Health
Psychedelic Therapy
PTSD
Microdosing
MDMA
Ibogaine
Harm Reduction
Community Engagement
Research In Psychedelic Therapies
Opioid Addiction
Multidisciplinary Association For Psychedelic Studies
Zendo Project
Personal Growth
Creativity
Psychedelic Medicine
Consciousness
Addiction Recovery
Burning Man
DMT

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.

Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.... more

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If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication?

In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Steve Levine, psychiatrist... more

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This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca.

By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But for millions of people, coca isn’t any of those things.

It’s daily life.

In thi... more

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The Many Faces of Coca – Part Two

In Part Two of the Many Faces of Coca series, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with renowned ethnopharmacologist Dennis McKenna to explore the science behind the coca leaf.

Part One focused on history and politics with Wad... more

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In Part One of The Many Faces of Coca, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Wade Davis to unpack the long history of the coca leaf and how a plant used for over 8,000 years became globally criminalized.

This conversation isn’t about cocaine. It’s about coc... more

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Dr. Steve Levine
Psychiatrist, chief patient officer at Compass Pathways
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Episode: Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways
Manuela Picq
Political theorist and anthropologist who has lived with indigenous communities in the Andes and Amazon
Independent academic
Episode: Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three
Dennis McKenna
Ethnopharmacologist, researcher, plant scholar
McKenna Academy
Episode: Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two
Wade Davis
Ethnobotanist, anthropologist, author, former explorer in residence at National Geographic
Episode: Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One
Paige West
Founder of Etereo Baja focusing on Iboga ceremonies and integration processes.
Etereo Baja
Episode: ETEREO: What No One Tells You About Iboga Work
Fletcher Burdick
Founder of Etereo Baja focusing on Iboga ceremonies and integration processes.
Etereo Baja
Episode: ETEREO: What No One Tells You About Iboga Work
Cesar Marin
Former CNN producer and current advocate for psychedelics and microdosing
Microdosing Over 50
Episode: Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention
Shane Mauss
Comedian and advocate for the intersection of science and psychedelics
Episode: Shane Mauss: How Psychedelics Actually Change the Mind
Betty Aldworth
Co-president of MAPS, formerly led Students for Sensible Drug Policy, involved in Colorado's cannabis legalization
MAPS
Episode: Betty Aldworth: MAPS, MDMA, and the Battle Over Psychedelic Medicine

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Bryan
Co-host, USMC veteran and psychedelic healing advocate; frequent presence across episodes with a focus on harm reduction and practical context.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 16 ratings
  • Common sense!

    What I appreciate about the show is that it can look critically at certain aspects of the world of psychedelics. Most other podcast host don’t think critically about the topic. The guests have been great and represent a range of perspectives and experiences.

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Grounded discussions with practical harm-reduction focus.
Thoughtful, critical take on psychedelics that avoids hype.
Guests bring a wide range of perspectives and experiences.

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Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention
Q: Was there any early skepticism or doubts that you really had to tackle?
Cesar confirms he had no skepticism towards psychedelics after his first experience, although he acknowledges skepticism from his children and parents.
Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention
Q: What brought you into this work, especially kind of in your mid fifties?
Cesar explains that psychedelics, which he didn't encounter until age 55, shifted his perspective on life and gave him a sense of purpose.
Betty Aldworth: MAPS, MDMA, and the Battle Over Psychedelic Medicine
Q: What would your message be to those feeling crushed by this FDA decision?
It's tough to wait, but please hold on and continue to seek other effective treatments while being cautious.
David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future
Q: What does the world look like in the next decade if everything is achieved?
Hopefully, it will head toward more compassion and empathy, learning from past mistakes, unlike the current political climate.
David Bronner on Corporate Psychedelics, Mysticism, and the All-One Future
Q: What would you say to other businesses? How could they follow more in your footsteps?
I think the problem a lot of mission-driven companies run into is financing. You need to be careful who you take money from.

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Grounded, no-nonsense conversations about psychedelics that mix science, history, and lived experience. Episodes skew toward harm reduction, mental health, creativity, and policy, featuring researchers, clinicians, advocates, and prominent voices from the psychedelic community. The show aims to cut through hype, offer practical context, and explore how psychedelic experiences intersect with society, culture, and personal growth. A notable strength is its willingness to challenge myths while staying accessible and humorous, making it useful for listeners who want thoughtful, evidence-based discussions without mysticism or sales pitches.

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1. Dr. Steve Levine
2. Manuela Picq
3. Dennis McKenna
4. Wade Davis
5. Paige West
6. Fletcher Burdick
7. Cesar Marin
8. Shane Mauss

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