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Design System Office Hours

Davy Fung + PJ Onori
Design Systems
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Adoption

Davy and PJ, design system practitioners talk about design-led product ownership, scaling and adoption, community and engagement, design system team models, and much more.

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Davy and PJ celebrate four years of Design System Office Hours by looking ahead at the shifting landscape of 2026. They explore how interoperability, open-source tooling, and AI-driven documentation being major themes to uplevel design system practic... more

Davy and PJ tackle the notorious difficulty of naming in design systems, advocating for human-readable, descriptive language over "cute" metaphors and discussing how AI is making file cleanliness more critical than ever.

Davy and PJ discuss a potential trend of major design systems going from public to internal only, stressing that public documentation is the ultimate forcing function for quality and a huge win for the community.

Davy and PJ talk about the term "craft," emphasizing that high-quality design work requires designers to understand engineering constraints and that a good design system needs to provide education, not just components and prototypes.

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Recent Guests

Ben Callahan
Leader in the Design Systems community and host of 'The Question'
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Episode: Ep 88: Stay in Learning Mode w/ Ben Callahan
Guy Segal
Design system practitioner and recent hire at Atlassian
Atlassian
Episode: Ep 86: I'm New to the TEAM w/ Guy Segal
Chela Giraldo
Design System professional and new hire at realtor.com
Realtor.com
Episode: Ep 84: Design Systems Interviewing w/ Chela
Matt Petitt
Engineering Manager at Dayforce
Dayforce
Episode: Ep 65: DS POV from Engineering w/ Matt Petitt
Donnie D'Amato
Founder and Chief Architect of Design Systems House, involved in various community initiatives.
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Episode: Ep 53: Design Technologists, Again

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Davy
Co-host of Design System Office Hours and a design system practitioner with experience in various aspects of design-led product ownership and community engagement.
PJ
Co-host of Design System Office Hours with a focus on scaling design systems and engaging communities within the design sector.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 42 ratings
  • Honest, relatable and thoughtful!

    Nothing like tuning into an informal yet passionate ongoing conversation about design systems; especially when its between two kind hearted design leaders with real stories and insights to share.

    11/10 would listen again, actually had it on as I bike around with my dog!

    Apple Podcasts
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    Robyn V. Smith
    United States3 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the informal yet informative discussions that make complex topics accessible. They value the hosts' real-world experiences and insights into design systems, which can enhance their own practices. The engaging banter between the hosts adds a relatable touch to the content.

Chart Rankings

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#194
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Apple Podcasts
#191
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#36
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#51
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#52
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#56
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Ep 73: Component Migrations
Q: At what point should someone want to migrate something?
You typically migrate when there's a gap in the design system that you can fill with a new component, or when you have to update existing components to new versions.
Ep 65: DS POV from Engineering w/ Matt Petitt
Q: In an ideal situation, what's the perfect cross-functional dynamic for teams?
There should be a collaborative environment where designers and developers work together from the start rather than sequentially, which increases efficiency and empathy between roles.
Ep 65: DS POV from Engineering w/ Matt Petitt
Q: What are your thoughts on time savings using the design system?
The time savings can vary based on the project, and the design system must be effectively promoted to gain buy-in from teams.
Ep 65: DS POV from Engineering w/ Matt Petitt
Q: What would you say are the most important things to focus in on then, if you had to start somewhere?
Focus on finding a product partner and delivering what they need to ship, avoiding the pitfalls of trying to create a comprehensive design system from scratch.
Ep 61: Where Design Systems Sit, w/ Nico from Zeplin
Q: What kind of advice would you give to any junior designers that sort of want to break into the field?
Get into a product design role where there’s an appetite to work in this sort of manner, focusing on design quality and efficiency.

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