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Dear Bob and Sue: A National Parks Podcast

Matt and Karen Smith
National Parks
Dry Tortugas National Park
Yosemite National Park
Pinnacles National Park
Sedona
Joshua Tree National Park
Olympic National Park
Southern Utah
Glacier National Park
Big Bend National Park
Camping
Talus Caves
Grand Teton National Park
Saguaro National Park
Grand Canyon
Coconino National Forest
California
Galápagos National Park
National Park Week
California Condor

In Dear Bob and Sue, authors Matt and Karen Smith share stories of their travels to all of the U.S. National Park as well as other spectacular public lands. From adventures gone awry to memorable moments and Q&As from readers, get to know the couple behind the books and get inspired to go on some adventures of your own.

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Latest Episodes

The Narrows in Zion National Park is one of the most iconic hikes in the American West. We recently returned to the park to hike the Narrows for the third time, and it’s been a while since we last talked about it on this podcast. Our first Narrows ep... more

#175: Great Pizza Places Near National Parks

After over fifteen years of traveling to the U.S. national parks and other public lands, we’ve learned there are a few key pieces of information you need to make a road trip a success. And at the top of ... more

Across our U.S. public lands are more than 130 national monuments, each protecting a unique natural or cultural treasure. In this episode, we’re diving into ten that feel a lot like visiting a national park, but without the crowds.

We share a mix of... more

We recently returned to Pinnacles National Park, a place we hadn’t visited since our first trip in 2013. Situated about 75 minutes south of Monterey, California, Pinnacles is known for its dramatic volcanic rock formations, remnants of a once 8,000-f... more

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Recent Guests

Jacob Wolfley
Intern and aspiring ranger with the National Park Service
National Park Service
Episode: #157: Celebrating National Park Week
Sara Shoemaker
Law enforcement ranger at Canyonlands National Park
Canyonlands National Park
Episode: #148: Hiking Safety Tips from a National Park Ranger

Hosts

Matt Smith
Host of Dear Bob and Sue Podcast, storyteller and researcher of national parks and public lands
Karen Smith
Co-host of Dear Bob and Sue Podcast, co-author of Dear Bob and Sue books

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 1.6k ratings
  • The Best National Park Planning Podcast!

    Love this podcast and couple! Their National Park knowledge and information has been invaluable as we plan our trip to Olympic National Park, and Mt Rainer. It really helped us narrow down which hikes to do and make decisions on lodges I was debating between. I am currently binging on their collection as I work in my garden each day!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Annanonymous11
    United States19 days ago
  • Absolute best podcast!

    The podcast that got me into podcasts! I love their playful banter, helpful insights, and inspiration to explore. We refer to Matt and Karen like friends of ours whenever we travel. My husband will ask “Did Matt and Karen tell you about this place?”. 100/10🤍

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mae Sch.
    United Statesa month ago
  • Excellent

    Such a fantastic podcast I happened to stumble upon thanks to ChatGPT. It’s been so great to listen to you guys- I feel like I know you and would love to see all the parks and public lands with my family too!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dr.deshpande
    United Statesa month ago
  • Used to be great

    This used to be my favorite podcast. Now they hardly ever release episodes, focusing instead on creating Patreon content. I just unsubscribed.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Math Freddy
    United States4 months ago
  • Lunch break walks with Karen and Matt

    Karen and Matt, I enjoy the conversation and the comedy!! It’s hard to go back to work if the episode isn’t over before lunch is over. I learn a lot about the parks as well as getting a good chuckle and some gasps! Thank you for this podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    gopmanda
    United States6 months ago

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Critics sometimes wish for more focused content and less banter, especially on longer episodes.
Listeners praise the hosts' enthusiasm, travel knowledge, and ability to plan detailed park trips.
The show benefits from strong word-of-mouth and engagement through books and related travel content.
Fans appreciate practical tips and in-depth park info that aid real trips and itinerary planning.
Several reviewers mention the humor as a plus, while a few note that laughter can be distracting at times.

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#168: Mailbag!
Q: Do you ever get tired of visiting the National Parks?
No, the hosts are still as excited to visit national parks as they were 15 years ago and appreciate discovering new trails and hidden gems each time they visit.
#143: Mailbag: Where to See Moose in the National Parks, and More!
Q: How do you like to spend all of the time you have in your vehicle as you travel along on your road trips?
Typically, we listen to playlists or talk about our business instead of intellectual podcasts or audiobooks.
#143: Mailbag: Where to See Moose in the National Parks, and More!
Q: Would you suggest that we fly into Las Vegas or Phoenix?
Phoenix is your best bet for a prettier drive with more things to do along the way.
#147: The Best of Big Bend National Park
Q: How much time do you think people should spend on a visit to Big Bend National Park?
The hosts suggest that three days is a perfect duration, but even two days would allow for a lot of exploring.
#149: Mailbag: Digging for Diamonds in an Arkansas State Park and More!
Q: Do you know of any place where we could fairly quickly cross the border into North Cascades National Park?
You can hike on the Bridge Creek Trail to the park border easily accessible from Highway 20.

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What is This Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Travel-focused, story-driven conversations about visiting U.S. National Parks and other public lands, with practical trip tips, historical notes, and humor-driven banter. Episodes blend route planning, logistics, safety tips, and personal experiences, often anchored by park-specific deep-dives and reader/Q&A moments. The show tends to attract devoted outdoors lovers who enjoy actionable planning insights alongside entertaining storytelling, and it occasionally features behind-the-scenes context from the authors' books and travels. A standout trait is the warm, personable chemistry between hosts, which fans describe as both informative and entertaining, though some listeners request less giggling and pacing changes. Potential sponsors or gue... more

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