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Join former White House policy expert Joe Grogan as he cuts through the complexities of healthcare legislation and its real-world implications. Each episode of DC EKG aims to demystify the policies shaping our healthcare system, uncovering how these changes impact patients, providers, and payers across the country.

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DC EKG with Joe Grogan

DC EKG Ep 140 | Joe Grogan & Dr. David Eagle: The Hospital Squeeze

Guest: Dr. David Eagle, President, American Independent Medical Practice Association

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Joe Grogan sits down with Dr. David Eagle, Presiden... more

Joe Grogan talks with John Desser, VP and Head of Government Affairs at Health Equity, about market-based healthcare and why

Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) may be its future. John's 35-year career runs from an internship in Senator John McCain's of... more

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Elizabeth Chamblee Birch, law professor and author of The Pain Brokers, exposes a coordinated healthcare fraud scheme targeting over 100,000 women. Stolen HIPAA-protected health records were weaponized by call centers in India and South Florida to co... more

Guest: John Bertrand, former Digital Diagnostics

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Joe Grogan sits down with John Bertrand, a veteran healthcare technology executive who scaled Digital Diagnostics to 75 health systems and achieved the first FDA approval and CMS ... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. David Eagle
Board-certified hematologist/oncologist; New York Cancer and Blood Specialists; past president of Community Oncology Alliance; VP of American Independent Medical Practice Association
New York Cancer and Blood Specialists; American Independent Medical Practice Association
Episode: Dr. David Eagle: The Hospital Squeeze
John Desser
Vice President and Head of Government Affairs at Health Equity
Health Equity
Episode: John Desser: Health Savings Accounts and Market-Based Healthcare Solutions
Elizabeth Chamblee Birch
Professor at University of Georgia, author of The Pain Brokers
University of Georgia
Episode: Elizabeth Chamblee Birch on The Pain Brokers
John Bertrand
Executive with Digital Diagnostics, expert in AI diagnostics and reimbursement
Digital Diagnostics / LuminatiX Core
Episode: John Bertrand on FDA Approval, CMS Reimbursement, and AI Healthcare Reality
Tomas Philipson
Acting Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers (Trump administration); economist and policy expert
Former Council of Economic Advisers
Episode: REFILL | Tomas Philipson on IRA, Inflation, Real Wages, and COVID Policy Tradeoffs (Originally Aired: June 2, 2023)
Naomi Lopez
Founder of Nexus Policy Consulting; co-host of Health Care AI Policy Summit
Nexus Policy Consulting
Episode: REFILL | Naomi Lopez on Healthcare AI, ACCESS, TEMPO, and the Future of Care (Originally Aired: January 23, 2026)
Jackson Hammond
Senior Policy Analyst at Paragon Health Institute, focused on health spending, CMS policy, and reforms centered on choice, competition, and patient-centered care
Paragon Health Institute
Episode: REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Michael Cannon
Director of Health Policy Studies, Cato Institute
Cato Institute
Episode: REFILL | Michael Cannon on STLDI and ACA Coverage: Costs, Choice, and Tradeoffs (Originally Aired: January 27, 2026)
Ryan Long
Capitol Hill policy expert, Senior Research Fellow at Paragon Health Institute, affiliated with USC Schaefer Institute
Paragon Health Institute, USC Schaefer Center, former House Energy and Commerce Committee staffer, former health policy lead to Speaker McCarthy
Episode: REFILL | Ryan Long on 340B Drug Pricing, Enhanced ACA Tax Credits, and Medicare Part D (Originally Aired: September 24, 2025)

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Joe Grogan
Host of the show and former White House policy expert, frequently guides in-depth health policy discussions.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 254 ratings
  • Great podcast

    Love listening to this weekly. Great way to stay updated on current events and policies

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    P Cynthia
    United States2 years ago
  • DC EKG

    Thanks for the info on the country’s failing health care system…

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Judy H L
    United States2 years ago
  • Great Insignt

    Discovered DC EKG and made it my go-to souce recently after deciding I wanted to be more educated in the space to coincide with the start of the new admin

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Malcolm J M
    United States2 years ago
  • DC EKG is my go to for healthcare policy

    DC EKG is my go to for anything niche in the healthcare policy world. The hosts are informative and always deliver fact based, unbiased information that helps keep me informed.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Katiemclaren1129
    United States2 years ago
  • Smart people sharing helpful insights

    Worth adding to the rotation

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Is good m8
    United States3 years ago

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Talking Points

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REFILL | Naomi Lopez on Healthcare AI, ACCESS, TEMPO, and the Future of Care (Originally Aired: January 23, 2026)
Q: What did Jim O'Neill's interview reveal about government data use and AI innovation?
He underscored a balance between enabling data access for research and protecting patient privacy, while advocating for smarter data release to inform predictive modeling and public health responses without compromising individual privacy.
REFILL | Naomi Lopez on Healthcare AI, ACCESS, TEMPO, and the Future of Care (Originally Aired: January 23, 2026)
Q: Why talk about Access and Tempo now, and what do they mean for patients and providers?
Access introduces an outcome-based payment model for chronic disease management to drive evidence collection and real-world proof, while Tempo aims to pilot non-certified AI tools under a risk-based framework, creating pathways for faster adoption and better post-market oversight.
REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Q: What does the National Health Expenditures report tell us about the payer mix and spending?
The guests explain that the report shows rising totals and a growing burden from Medicare and Medicaid, with strong emphasis on how private insurance, taxes, and various subsidies contribute to escalating costs, and the urgent need for reform to prevent fiscal strain while maintaining care quality.
REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Q: What topics are you focused on most in health care policy?
He emphasizes Medicare drug pricing, PBMs, and 340B as core interests, while acknowledging the broader spending trajectory in health care and the need to address both hospital reform and the dynamics of private insurance versus government programs.
REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Q: How did you get involved in healthcare policy?
Jackson describes starting in trade and criminal justice, moving into healthcare after mentorship under Jamie Light, working through Congressional and state roles during the pandemic, and eventually joining Paragon after roles at American Action Forum and other groups, which helped him develop a focus on drug pricing, PBMs, and 340B.

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Frequently Asked Questions About DC EKG

What is DC EKG about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show consistently tackles U.S. health policy through pointed conversations with policy researchers, physicians, and former government officials. Across episodes, topics include health insurance design and market-based reforms, drug pricing, FDA and CMS regulatory dynamics, subsidy mechanics, and public health governance. Notable angles include critiques of government interventions, advocacy for consumer choice, and practical policy pathways that aim to influence how coverage, access, and innovation interact in a large, complex system. The format often blends historical context, real-world anecdotes, and sharp takes on current health policy debates, making it a provocative source for listeners who want principled, policy-forward discuss... more

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3. Elizabeth Chamblee Birch
4. John Bertrand
5. Tomas Philipson
6. Naomi Lopez
7. Jackson Hammond
8. Michael Cannon

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