DC EKG

Stay On Course Studios

Affordable Care Act

Medicare Part D

340B Program

Medicare

FDA

Health Savings Accounts

CMS

Inflation Reduction Act

Alzheimer's Disease

Medicaid

Price Transparency

340B Drug Pricing Program

New York

Hungary

Electronic Health Records

Artificial Intelligence

Paragon Health Institute

Obamacare / Affordable Care Act

National Health Expenditures

Rural Health

Join former White House policy expert Joe Grogan as he cuts through the complexities of healthcare legislation and its real-world implications. Each episode of DC EKG aims to demystify the policies shaping our healthcare system, uncovering how these changes impact patients, providers, and payers across the country.

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Publishes	Weekly	Episodes	144	Founded	3 years ago
Number of Listeners		Categories	GovernmentPoliticsNews

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"REFILL" | Dr. Brian Miller on FDA Regulatory Reform and the Valley of Death in Medical Innovation (Originally Aired: March 21, 2025)

In this "Refill" episode, Joe Grogan sits down with Dr. Brian Miller to discuss the "Valley of Death" - the gap between FDA approval and CMS coverage - and how regulatory reform can accelerate medical innovation. Miller explains how FDA product revie... more

20 Jul 2026 • 44 min

"REFILL" | Peter Pitt on FDA Advisory Committees, Make America Healthy Again, and Drug Pricing (Originally Aired: May 23, 2025)

Joe Grogan sits down with Peter Pitt, FDA veteran and expert on healthcare regulation, to discuss FDA advisory committees, the Make America Healthy Again initiative, and critical gaps in pharmaceutical labeling. Pitt addresses why obesity-related dru... more

13 Jul 2026 • 45 min • Most popular

"REFILL" - Ryan Long on the ACA Subsidy Fight, Phantom Enrollees, and Reforming 340B

Podcast TitleDC EKG with Joe Grogan: A Healthcare Policy Podcast

This is a REFILL of Episode124 - (Original air date: January 27, 2026)

Episode Title - Ryan Long on the ACA Subsidy Fight, Phantom Enrollees, and Reforming 340B

Episode Description -... more

6 Jul 2026 • 47 min • Popular

"REFILL" White House Rivalries and CDC Reform with Dr. Tevi Troy

An episode pulled from the archives, Joe Grogan and Eric Ueland welcome Dr. Tevi Troy, former Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services, presidential historian, and best selling author of Fight House: Rivalries in the White House from Truman to T... more

29 Jun 2026 • 48 min

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Recent Guests

Brian Miller

Physician, AEI non-resident fellow focused on FDA regulatory policy and Medicare payment policy

American Enterprise Institute (AEI)

Episode: "REFILL" | Dr. Brian Miller on FDA Regulatory Reform and the Valley of Death in Medical Innovation (Originally Aired: March 21, 2025)

Peter Pitt

President and co-founder of the Center for Medicine in the Public Interest; visiting professor at the University of Paris School of Medicine

Center for Medicine in the Public Interest

Episode: "REFILL" | Peter Pitt on FDA Advisory Committees, Make America Healthy Again, and Drug Pricing (Originally Aired: May 23, 2025)

Tevi Troy

Former Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services; presidential historian

DC EKG guest

Episode: "REFILL" White House Rivalries and CDC Reform with Dr. Tevi Troy

Jay Bhattacharya

Stanford professor, health policy researcher

Stanford University

Episode: "REFILL" | Dr. Jay Bhattacharya on COVID Infection Rates, Natural Immunity, and the Great Barrington Declaration (Originally Aired: July 20, 2023)

Ike Brannon

President of Capital Policy Analytics; former chief economist of the House Energy and Commerce Committee; policy researcher on tax and health issues

Capital Policy Analytics

Episode: Tax Expenditures, 340 B Drug Pricing, and Kidney Donation Reform

Ben Ippolito

Senior Fellow in Economic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute

American Enterprise Institute

Episode: "REFILL" - The Economics of Ozempic and Other Weight Loss Drugs (Originally Aired: May 2024)

Tom Barker

Partner at Foley Hoag; former HHS general counsel; expert on drug pricing policy

Foley Hoag; former HHS

Episode: Tom Barker on The Truth About Drug Pricing Policy

Mark McClellan

Former FDA and CMS administrator, Duke Margolis Institute executive

Duke Margolis Institute, Duke University

Episode: Dr. Mark McClellan on How FDA and CMS Should Work Together

Robert Redfield

Former CDC Director, author of Redfield's Warning

Redfield & Co., author

Episode: Dr. Redfield's Warning: Hantavirus| Bird Flu| Long COVID and More

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Joe Grogan

Host of DC EKG; former White House policy expert; guides interviews and topics.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 63 ratings

Great podcast
Love listening to this weekly. Great way to stay updated on current events and policies
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P Cynthia
United States2 years ago
DC EKG
Thanks for the info on the country’s failing health care system…
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Judy H L
United States2 years ago
Great Insignt
Discovered DC EKG and made it my go-to souce recently after deciding I wanted to be more educated in the space to coincide with the start of the new admin
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Malcolm J M
United States2 years ago
DC EKG is my go to for healthcare policy
DC EKG is my go to for anything niche in the healthcare policy world. The hosts are informative and always deliver fact based, unbiased information that helps keep me informed.
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Katiemclaren1129
United States2 years ago
Smart people sharing helpful insights
Worth adding to the rotation
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The show is a go-to for healthcare policy enthusiasts seeking in-depth discussion and data-driven critique.

Guests are consistently knowledgeable, offering practical perspectives on complex policy trade-offs.

Listeners appreciate fact-based, unbiased policy analysis that connects Washington debates to real-world health outcomes.

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Apple Podcasts	#196	Germany/Government
Apple Podcasts	#73	India/Government

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Tax Expenditures, 340 B Drug Pricing, and Kidney Donation Reform

Q: From a tax perspective, what would you advocate for as part of a comprehensive tax reform or revenue-raising package regarding 340B?

I would remove the top 20 tax expenditures, including the mortgage interest deduction and the tax break for employer-provided health insurance, because they mostly benefit the upper-middle class and do not achieve their stated goals; this should be paired with broader entitlement reform to address long-term deficits.

Dr. Mark McClellan on How FDA and CMS Should Work Together

Q: How do you see AI and digital health tools affecting CMS and FDA collaboration going forward?

AI and digital health tools will fundamentally reshape how data is collected, analyzed, and used for decision-making. The collaboration should establish clear pathways for post-market learning, measurement of outcomes, and payment models that reward real improvements in patient health, while maintaining rigorous safety standards.

Dr. Mark McClellan on How FDA and CMS Should Work Together

Q: What were the key challenges in creating Part D, and how did data systems like SureScripts become foundational?

The biggest hurdles were enabling real-time data exchange for eligibility, co-pays, and coverage decisions across thousands of pharmacies, and aligning incentives for competition among plans. We pushed for early regulatory clarity and brought on critical commenters to refine the regs; SureScripts became the backbone that connected patient data to coverage and pricing in real time.

Dr. Mark McClellan on How FDA and CMS Should Work Together

Q: What led you to work across both FDA and CMS, and how did your day-to-day responsibilities differ between the agencies?

I explained that my background in medicine and economics drove me to roles where economic soundness and scientific rigor intersected policy. At FDA I focused on speeding up safe, effective development and at CMS I concentrated on implementing programs like Part D, with attention to data, risk adjustment, and the real-world performance of drugs and devices.

Tom Barker on The Truth About Drug Pricing Policy

Q: What policy levers would you deploy to address the drug pricing issue in America if Kennedy called you tomorrow?

Focus on competition and marketplace dynamics rather than government price setting, accelerate approval of generics and biosimilars, and maintain Part D's private-plan competition model while carefully addressing reforms that stabilize benefits and patient cost sharing.

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DC EKG concentrates on health policy and its real-world effects, featuring conversations with policy experts, economists, and healthcare leaders. Episodes frequently dissect health-care financing, regulation, and delivery—from subsidies and 340B to data policy, AI in health care, and rural health access—while offering practical perspectives on how legislation shapes patients, providers, and insurers. A standout attribute is the host's emphasis on data-driven analysis and bipartisan critique, often pairing practical industry experience with policy history to illuminate incentives, implementation challenges, and reform options. This mix makes the show particularly useful for listeners who want clear, policy-focused insights and the implicatio... more

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