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Inflation Reduction Act
Alzheimer's Disease
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Join former White House policy expert Joe Grogan as he cuts through the complexities of healthcare legislation and its real-world implications. Each episode of DC EKG aims to demystify the policies shaping our healthcare system, uncovering how these changes impact patients, providers, and payers across the country.

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DC EKG with Joe Grogan

The Economics of Ozempic and Other Weight Loss Drugs

Episode 136.5 (“Prescription Refill” – A replay from the archives)

Original Air Date: May 2024

In this episode, Joe Grogan welcomes Ben Ippolito, Senior Fellow in Economi... more

In Episode 136 of DC EKG, Joe Grogan hosts Tom Barker, a top drug-pricing attorney at Foley Hoag and former acting general counsel of Health and Human Services (HHS) under the Bush administration. Tom helped implement Medicare Part D and now advises ... more

In Episode 134 of DC EKG, former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield joins Joe Grogan to discuss his new book, Redfield's Warning, and break down three major threats to public health: Long COVID, Hantavirus, and bird flu. Dr. Redfield explains the persi... more

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Robert Redfield
Former CDC Director, author of Redfield's Warning
Redfield & Co., author
Episode: Dr. Redfield's Warning: Hantavirus| Bird Flu| Long COVID and More
Christiaan Alting von Geusau
Expert with dual Dutch and American citizenship; former General Counsel and President of Catholic institutions; founder of ICLN
International Catholic Legislators Network (ICLN); Ambrose Advice
Episode: Hungary Election After Orban with Christiaan Alting von Geusau
John Goodman
Health policy economist and founder of the Goodman Institute
Goodman Institute
Episode: Obamacare, HSAs, and Reference Pricing with Dr. John Goodman
Adam Thierer
AI policy expert and senior fellow, R Street Institute
R Street Institute
Episode: State AI Laws, Preemption and Health Innovation with Adam Thierer
Kat McDavitt
President and founding partner of Innsena; CEO and founder of the Zorya Foundation
Innsena; Zorya Foundation
Episode: HTI 5, Health Data Control and AI with Kat McDavitt and Lisa Bari
Lisa Bari
Leader in health IT policy and private sector health data initiatives
Innovaccer
Episode: HTI 5, Health Data Control and AI with Kat McDavitt and Lisa Bari
Manny Sethi
Orthopedic traumatologist at Vanderbilt; founder of Healthy Tennessee
Vanderbilt University Medical Center; Healthy Tennessee
Episode: Rural Health on the Front Lines: Dr. Manny Sethi on Access, Private Equity, and Prevention
Sue Peschin
President and CEO of the Alliance for Aging Research
Alliance for Aging Research
Episode: Alzheimer’s in Real Life: Sue Peschin on Early Detection, Biomarkers, CED, and the ASAP Act
Michael Cannon
Director of Health Policy Studies, Cato Institute; libertarian policy expert
Cato Institute
Episode: STLDI and ACA Coverage: Costs, Choice, and Tradeoffs

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Joe Grogan
Host of DC EKG; former White House policy expert; guides interviews and topics.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 29 ratings
  • Great podcast

    Love listening to this weekly. Great way to stay updated on current events and policies

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    P Cynthia
    United Statesa year ago
  • DC EKG

    Thanks for the info on the country’s failing health care system…

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Judy H L
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great Insignt

    Discovered DC EKG and made it my go-to souce recently after deciding I wanted to be more educated in the space to coincide with the start of the new admin

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Malcolm J M
    United Statesa year ago
  • DC EKG is my go to for healthcare policy

    DC EKG is my go to for anything niche in the healthcare policy world. The hosts are informative and always deliver fact based, unbiased information that helps keep me informed.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Katiemclaren1129
    United States2 years ago
  • Smart people sharing helpful insights

    Worth adding to the rotation

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Is good m8
    United States3 years ago

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The show is a go-to for healthcare policy enthusiasts seeking in-depth discussion and data-driven critique.
Guests are consistently knowledgeable, offering practical perspectives on complex policy trade-offs.
Listeners appreciate fact-based, unbiased policy analysis that connects Washington debates to real-world health outcomes.

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Inside the Business of American Healthcare with Wharton’s Dr. Lawton Burns
Q: Who takes your class and what do you teach about payers?
The class attracts doctors, MBAs, nurses, and legal professionals, and covers the three major payers—commercial insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid—along with how hospitals and providers interact with them under different policy scenarios.
Inside the Business of American Healthcare with Wharton’s Dr. Lawton Burns
Q: How much trouble am I in?
Dr. Burns explains that the healthcare ecosystem can be taught comprehensively in 14 weeks, covering providers, payers, and policy levers, while noting the complexity and local variation that makes simple market predictions challenging.
Debunking the Myths of the One Big Beautiful Bill with Brian Blase
Q: What role do CBO projections play in shaping or mis-shaping health policy like this, in your view?
CBO projections often overstate or misinterpret market incentives; the focus should be on aligning incentives across actors and using market-based tools like HSAs to achieve better outcomes rather than depending on centralized scorings that may not reflect real-world behaviors.
Debunking the Myths of the One Big Beautiful Bill with Brian Blase
Q: Let's start with the biggest wins you see from the Big Beautiful Bill from a health care economist's perspective.
The most significant wins are the tightened controls on Medicaid money laundering, the rollback of costly enrollment expansion incentives, and the work and community engagement requirements that restructure how the program operates to reduce fraud and waste.
Sean Spicer on Why Legacy Media Is Failing, Trump’s Impact & the Future of GOP Messaging
Q: Where do you see the current communications game between Republicans and Democrats around the health care policy package?
The goal is to connect policy outcomes to voters' real-world experiences, emphasize what has been prevented (like tax increases) and explain the timing of benefits so people feel a connection to the policy, even if some effects bake in over time.

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What is DC EKG about and what kind of topics does it cover?

DC EKG concentrates on health policy and its real-world effects, featuring conversations with policy experts, economists, and healthcare leaders. Episodes frequently dissect health-care financing, regulation, and delivery—from subsidies and 340B to data policy, AI in health care, and rural health access—while offering practical perspectives on how legislation shapes patients, providers, and insurers. A standout attribute is the host's emphasis on data-driven analysis and bipartisan critique, often pairing practical industry experience with policy history to illuminate incentives, implementation challenges, and reform options. This mix makes the show particularly useful for listeners who want clear, policy-focused insights and the implicatio... more

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2. Christiaan Alting von Geusau
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