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Join former White House policy expert Joe Grogan as he cuts through the complexities of healthcare legislation and its real-world implications. Each episode of DC EKG aims to demystify the policies shaping our healthcare system, uncovering how these changes impact patients, providers, and payers across the country.

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Elizabeth Chamblee Birch, law professor and author of The Pain Brokers, exposes a coordinated healthcare fraud scheme targeting over 100,000 women. Stolen HIPAA-protected health records were weaponized by call centers in India and South Florida to co... more

Guest: John Bertrand, former Digital Diagnostics

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Joe Grogan sits down with John Bertrand, a veteran healthcare technology executive who scaled Digital Diagnostics to 75 health systems and achieved the first FDA approval and CMS ... more

This is a legacy episode recorded in January 2026. At the time of recording, Naomi Lopez was founder of Nexus Policy Consulting and a leading voice in healthcare policy, healthcare AI, and state health reform.

Joe Grogan sits down with Naomi Lopez f... more

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Recent Guests

Elizabeth Chamblee Birch
Professor at University of Georgia, author of The Pain Brokers
University of Georgia
Episode: E139 | Elizabeth Chamblee Birch on The Pain Brokers
John Bertrand
Executive with Digital Diagnostics, expert in AI diagnostics and reimbursement
Digital Diagnostics / LuminatiX Core
Episode: John Bertrand on FDA Approval, CMS Reimbursement, and AI Healthcare Reality
Tomas Philipson
Acting Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers (Trump administration); economist and policy expert
Former Council of Economic Advisers
Episode: REFILL | Tomas Philipson on IRA, Inflation, Real Wages, and COVID Policy Tradeoffs (Originally Aired: June 2, 2023)
Naomi Lopez
Founder of Nexus Policy Consulting; co-host of Health Care AI Policy Summit
Nexus Policy Consulting
Episode: REFILL | Naomi Lopez on Healthcare AI, ACCESS, TEMPO, and the Future of Care (Originally Aired: January 23, 2026)
Dutch Rojas
Healthcare entrepreneur and social media commentator on direct contracting and market-based solutions
Physician Led Healthcare for America (PHA)
Episode: "REFILL" | Dutch Rojas on Healthcare Economics, Direct Contracting, and Tax-Exempt Health Systems (Originally Aired: September 15, 2025)
Brian Miller
Physician, AEI non-resident fellow focused on FDA regulatory policy and Medicare payment policy
American Enterprise Institute (AEI)
Episode: "REFILL" | Dr. Brian Miller on FDA Regulatory Reform and the Valley of Death in Medical Innovation (Originally Aired: March 21, 2025)
Peter Pitt
President and co-founder of the Center for Medicine in the Public Interest; visiting professor at the University of Paris School of Medicine
Center for Medicine in the Public Interest
Episode: "REFILL" | Peter Pitt on FDA Advisory Committees, Make America Healthy Again, and Drug Pricing (Originally Aired: May 23, 2025)
Tevi Troy
Former Deputy Secretary of Health and Human Services; presidential historian
DC EKG guest
Episode: "REFILL" White House Rivalries and CDC Reform with Dr. Tevi Troy
Jay Bhattacharya
Stanford professor, health policy researcher
Stanford University
Episode: "REFILL" | Dr. Jay Bhattacharya on COVID Infection Rates, Natural Immunity, and the Great Barrington Declaration (Originally Aired: July 20, 2023)

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Joe Grogan
Host of the show and former White House policy expert, frequently guides in-depth health policy discussions.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 254 ratings
  • Great podcast

    Love listening to this weekly. Great way to stay updated on current events and policies

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    P Cynthia
    United States2 years ago
  • DC EKG

    Thanks for the info on the country’s failing health care system…

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Judy H L
    United States2 years ago
  • Great Insignt

    Discovered DC EKG and made it my go-to souce recently after deciding I wanted to be more educated in the space to coincide with the start of the new admin

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Malcolm J M
    United States2 years ago
  • DC EKG is my go to for healthcare policy

    DC EKG is my go to for anything niche in the healthcare policy world. The hosts are informative and always deliver fact based, unbiased information that helps keep me informed.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Katiemclaren1129
    United States2 years ago
  • Smart people sharing helpful insights

    Worth adding to the rotation

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Is good m8
    United States3 years ago

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Talking Points

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REFILL | Naomi Lopez on Healthcare AI, ACCESS, TEMPO, and the Future of Care (Originally Aired: January 23, 2026)
Q: What did Jim O'Neill's interview reveal about government data use and AI innovation?
He underscored a balance between enabling data access for research and protecting patient privacy, while advocating for smarter data release to inform predictive modeling and public health responses without compromising individual privacy.
REFILL | Naomi Lopez on Healthcare AI, ACCESS, TEMPO, and the Future of Care (Originally Aired: January 23, 2026)
Q: Why talk about Access and Tempo now, and what do they mean for patients and providers?
Access introduces an outcome-based payment model for chronic disease management to drive evidence collection and real-world proof, while Tempo aims to pilot non-certified AI tools under a risk-based framework, creating pathways for faster adoption and better post-market oversight.
REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Q: What does the National Health Expenditures report tell us about the payer mix and spending?
The guests explain that the report shows rising totals and a growing burden from Medicare and Medicaid, with strong emphasis on how private insurance, taxes, and various subsidies contribute to escalating costs, and the urgent need for reform to prevent fiscal strain while maintaining care quality.
REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Q: What topics are you focused on most in health care policy?
He emphasizes Medicare drug pricing, PBMs, and 340B as core interests, while acknowledging the broader spending trajectory in health care and the need to address both hospital reform and the dynamics of private insurance versus government programs.
REFILL | Jackson Hammond on NHE, CMS Reform, and Making Insurance Almost Obsolete (Originally Aired: January 22, 2026)
Q: How did you get involved in healthcare policy?
Jackson describes starting in trade and criminal justice, moving into healthcare after mentorship under Jamie Light, working through Congressional and state roles during the pandemic, and eventually joining Paragon after roles at American Action Forum and other groups, which helped him develop a focus on drug pricing, PBMs, and 340B.

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Frequently Asked Questions About DC EKG

What is DC EKG about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show consistently tackles U.S. health policy through pointed conversations with policy researchers, physicians, and former government officials. Across episodes, topics include health insurance design and market-based reforms, drug pricing, FDA and CMS regulatory dynamics, subsidy mechanics, and public health governance. Notable angles include critiques of government interventions, advocacy for consumer choice, and practical policy pathways that aim to influence how coverage, access, and innovation interact in a large, complex system. The format often blends historical context, real-world anecdotes, and sharp takes on current health policy debates, making it a provocative source for listeners who want principled, policy-forward discuss... more

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1. Elizabeth Chamblee Birch
2. John Bertrand
3. Tomas Philipson
4. Naomi Lopez
5. Dutch Rojas
6. Brian Miller
7. Peter Pitt
8. Tevi Troy

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