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Cogs of War

War on the Rocks
Artificial Intelligence
Defense Technology
China
Drones
Department Of Defense
Lockheed Martin
Skunk Works
Ukraine
Agentic AI
Skyfoundry Act
Open Source Intelligence
Manufacturing
Natural Language Processing
National Defense Authorization Act
F-35
Cybersecurity
Automated Target Recognition
Military Industrial Complex
Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance
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A new show and vertical focused on defense tech and the defense industrial base, created and produced by WAR ON THE ROCKS and supported by BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON.

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes23Foundeda year ago
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Latest Episodes

There's a clear consensus that America hollowed out its critical minerals base. How to rebuild it is less settled. Alex Grant of Magrathea Metals and Wes Spurlock of Principal Mineral join Jonathan to discuss the processing technology, labor force, a... more

Joe Jewell left academia and his role directing hypersonic wind tunnels to oversee the Pentagon's science and technology enterprise. He wants more researchers to make the same move. He joins Jonathan to discuss the Pentagon's science enterprise, why ... more

Armies run on more than what happens at the front. Behind every operation is a vast amount of coordination, administration, logistics, and judgment. Bill Pessin, senior vice president of national security at Salesforce and a former U.S. Army logistic... more

Congress rarely moves fast, but Reps. Rob Wittman and Pat Ryan are trying to change that. The two lawmakers founded the bipartisan House Defense Modernization Caucus in 2024 and have driven reforms through two consecutive defense authorization acts, ... more

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Recent Guests

Alex Grant
Co-founder and CEO of Magrathea Metals
Magrathea Metals
Episode: Rebuilding America's Critical Minerals Base
Wes Spurlock
Co-founder and COO of Principal Mineral
Principal Mineral
Episode: Rebuilding America's Critical Minerals Base
Dr. Joseph Jewell
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Science and Technology
Department of Defense
Episode: The Pentagon's Sprint to Get Tech Out of the Lab and to the Warfighter
Bill Pessin
Senior vice president and general manager, Salesforce National Security
Salesforce
Episode: AI Agents and the Unseen Work of War
Rob Wittman
Representative, Virginia's 1st district; vice chair of House Armed Services Committee; co-chair of Congressional Shipbuilding Caucus
U.S. House of Representatives
Episode: The Lawmakers Fighting to Modernize the Pentagon
Pat Ryan
Representative, New York's 18th/19th districts; member of House Armed Services Committee; former West Point graduate with combat tours
U.S. House of Representatives
Episode: The Lawmakers Fighting to Modernize the Pentagon
Claire Qureshi
Co-founder and CEO of Sentinel Bio
Sentinel Bio
Episode: Synthetic Biology, Drones, and AI: The Risks of Dual-Use Technologies
Paul Lushenko
US Army officer; Chief Strategist for Joint Counter Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office
US Army; Joint Counter Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office
Episode: Synthetic Biology, Drones, and AI: The Risks of Dual-Use Technologies
Lennart Heim
Researcher focusing on AI governance and compute
RAND (former); Researchers at RAND Center for AI, Security, and Technology
Episode: Synthetic Biology, Drones, and AI: The Risks of Dual-Use Technologies

Hosts

Jonathan Pantor
Executive editor of the Cogs of War vertical, War on the Rocks / Booz Allen Hamilton
Ryan Evans
Host of the episode, founder of War On The Rocks, and guide of conversations with guests

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    Ghihrthigtihugtritrhgrti
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  • Great New Podcast

    The first couple episodes of Cogs of War have been incredible. The knowledge and variety of guess as well as the detailed and researched questions of the host allow for varied content that is that is understandable and concise. A great quick listen!

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    Ben M Sam
    Canadaa year ago

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The show is seen as timely for defense tech and procurement topics, with some criticism about pacing in a few episodes.
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Synthetic Biology, Drones, and AI: The Risks of Dual-Use Technologies
Q: Where are you seeing positive momentum in governance and regulation?
The panel highlights JIDA 401 as a framework for coordinating federal agencies to tailor policy and authorities, and emphasizes counter-drone readiness and shared training.
Synthetic Biology, Drones, and AI: The Risks of Dual-Use Technologies
Q: Paul, can we start with you?
Paul discusses how dual-use drone tech challenges civilian use, criminalization risks, and the need for indicators and warnings through an interagency, whole-of-government approach.
Meet the New Host of Cogs of War
Q: How has your academic journey intersected with your defense focus, and why pursue a PhD after a Navy career?
He pursued a PhD to deepen policy-relevant understanding of international relations and forward presence, valuing qualitative analysis and the ability to translate deep research into practical defense insights for public discourse and policy.
Meet the New Host of Cogs of War
Q: What were the most formative experiences on Baton and San Jacinto, and how did they influence your approach to technology and leadership?
He highlights the hands-on leadership of divisions, the critical role of maintenance and data transmission tech on Baton, and the navigator role on San Jacinto where high-stakes scenario awareness and direct reporting to the captain sharpened his sense of responsibility and decision-making under pressure.
Meet the New Host of Cogs of War
Q: Why did you decide to join the Navy, and how did that shape your path toward intelligence and leadership?
He describes a desire for mission-focused work and the lure of deploying and leading in a meaningful way, which eventually steered him through SWO roles, mentorship, and leadership development, shaping his long-term view of defense technology and policy.

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What is Cogs of War about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A narrowly focused deep-dive into defense technology, national security innovation, and the defense industrial base. Episodes commonly explore enterprise tech adoption for government use, modernization of procurement and open architectures, and the human and organizational challenges of integrating advanced technologies like AI, autonomous systems, and drone capabilities into military contexts. Notable flourishes include candid discussions with industry leaders, policymakers, and academic partners about practical workflows, procurement reform, and the evolving relationship between government, industry, and research institutions. The show often pairs senior industry executives with defense and policy perspectives to illuminate how cutting-ed... more

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1. Alex Grant
2. Wes Spurlock
3. Dr. Joseph Jewell
4. Bill Pessin
5. Rob Wittman
6. Pat Ryan
7. Claire Qureshi
8. Paul Lushenko

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