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Clever with Amy Devers

Amy Devers
Architecture
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Norman Jaffe
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Danny Harris
Memphis
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Eileen Gray

Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.

In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to u... more

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It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Jay has continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since this conversation, and we have updates. Be sure to subscri... more

It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, b... more

It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, b... more

It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, be sure to subsc... more

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Recent Guests

Jay Osgerby
Industrial designer, co-founder of Barber Osgerby; partner in Universal Design Studio and MAP Project Office
Barber Osgerby, Universal, MAP
Episode: Ep. 163: Designer Jay Osgerby Shines a Light on Loss, Legacy, and Longevity [encore]
Michael Ford
Designer, educator, The Hip Hop Architect
The Hip Hop Architecture Camp; Universal Hip Hop Museum (Director of Design)
Episode: Ep.141: Hip Hop Architect Michael Ford [encore]
Jerry Helling
President and Creative Director of Bernhardt Design
Bernhardt Design
Episode: Ep. 56: Jerry Helling [encore]
Joe Doucet
Interdisciplinary designer, inventor, entrepreneur, and creative director
Joe Doucet Partners
Episode: Clever Ep. 1: Joe Doucet [encore]
Alyssa Velazquez
Curator, Assistant Curator at Carnegie Museum of Art; 2026 Curatorial Fellow at Center for Craft
Carnegie Museum of Art; Center for Craft
Episode: Ep. 237: Curator Alyssa Velazquez on Craft-itarianism: Community Action Through Craft
Liz Ogbu
Designer, spatial justice activist, and community grief worker
Studio O
Episode: Ep. 232: Studio O’s Liz Ogbu on Spatial Justice and the Role of Design in Healing Grief [encore]
Dennis Maher
Artist and designer, founder/director of The Assembly House
The Assembly House, SACRA
Episode: Ep. 236: The Living Architectural Dream Worlds of Dennis Maher
Deborah L. Scott
Oscar-winning costume designer
Self-employed/Scott Studio
Episode: Ep. 185: Costume Designer Deborah L. Scott on Building Worlds with Character and Depth [encore]
Michael Townsend
Public artist and founder of the tape art movement.
Independent artist
Episode: Ep. 235: Secret Mall Apartment’s Michael Townsend on Ephemeral Art with Enduring Impact

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 725 ratings
  • Nourishing

    My curiosity and creativity feel energized after listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    The Actual Skinny Pete
    United Statesa year ago
  • Enriching

    In the latest episode Amy summed up her conversation with Lionel Ohayon as enriching and I realised that’s how I feel about every episode of this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Make, Do & Send
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Inspiring

    As a young architect this podcast has inspired me and guided me while I started my journey in the field. Amy asks amazing questions that help understand the meaning behind the design.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    L’arch
    Canada3 years ago
  • Amazingly amazing

    Clever is the only podcast I listen to. I am a graphic designer/art director and listening to all these people make feel less wired. I learn a lot and enjoy it tremendously. Thank you Amy Devers for the great show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lia.moudi
    United States3 years ago
  • 💜

    Great podcast, but there are way too many commercials.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    pezz26
    United States3 years ago

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Listeners praise deep, human-centered design conversations and host rapport.
The format is engaging and informative for designers and students alike.
Guests are described as insightful and influential in design.
Some listeners note strong episode quality and inspiration, with occasional criticism about pacing or tone.

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Apple Podcasts
#101
United States/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#140
United Kingdom/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#226
Canada/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#83
France/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#97
Australia/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#109
Italy/Arts/Design

Talking Points

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Ep. 213: The Quiet Rebellion of Biodesigner Natsai Audrey Chieza [encore]
Q: What led you to found Faber Futures and pursue biodesign?
After studying architecture and encountering a vibrant, female-led environment at Central Saint Martins, I sought to merge design with biology to address real-world sustainability challenges, building ecosystems and infrastructure that support equitable biotech rather than just creating isolated innovations.
Clever Ep. 1: Joe Doucet [encore]
Q: What is your creative process that allows you to work across so many disciplines?
A blend of insatiable curiosity and willingness to explore unknown domains, paired with a focus on clear problem definitions and using design tools to shape solutions, rather than starting from aesthetics alone.
Ep. 235: Secret Mall Apartment’s Michael Townsend on Ephemeral Art with Enduring Impact
Q: Why did you choose, through the methodology of art and art making, to make such a drastic disconnection?
Michael explained that it was a response to a challenging emotional time, and he felt it necessary to explore his identity through art.
Ep. 231: True Crime Podcaster Stephanie Tinsley on Everything They Missed [encore]
Q: What was it like navigating the chaos during the Murdaugh trial?
It's like walking into a True Crime story, feeling as though you are in the middle of a tornado of media and fear for your loved one's safety.
Ep. 231: True Crime Podcaster Stephanie Tinsley on Everything They Missed [encore]
Q: So tell me about the show.
The show is called Everything They Missed, and it's about a brutal murder in Memphis, Tennessee, exploring a likely wrongful conviction story.

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Clever features candid conversations with designers, makers, and culture-shaping visionaries who illuminate the human stories behind the built and artistic world. Episodes span design leadership, material innovation, community impact, and the intersections of design with education, craft, and media. Notable throughlines include mentorship, ethical practice, and how creative work translates into real-world change, from furniture and product design to public art and architecture. A strength is the accessible, personality-driven host dynamic that often surfaces practical advice for designers, educators, and creatives seeking to build meaningful careers and collaborative projects.

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1. Fresh Air
2. Design Matters with Debbie Millman
3. Time Sensitive
4. City Arts & Lectures
5. On Being with Krista Tippett

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Clever launched 10 years ago and published 350 episodes to date. You can find more information about this podcast including rankings, audience demographics and engagement in our podcast database.

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Recent guests on Clever include:

1. Jay Osgerby
2. Michael Ford
3. Jerry Helling
4. Joe Doucet
5. Alyssa Velazquez
6. Liz Ogbu
7. Dennis Maher
8. Deborah L. Scott

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