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Clever with Amy Devers

Amy Devers
Architecture
Design
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Norman Jaffe
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Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.

In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to u... more

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes357Founded10 years ago
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It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, b... more

It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, b... more

It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Of course our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conver... more

It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, b... more

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Recent Guests

Ini Archibong
Designer and founder engaged in furniture, product design and architecture
Self-employed / Studio INI
Episode: Ep. 41: Ini Archibong [encore]
Ivy Ross
Head of Google Hardware Design
Google
Episode: Ep. 89: VP of Google Hardware Design Ivy Ross [encore]
Avery Trufelman
Podcaster and former producer on 99% Invisible
Former 99% Invisible producer, creator of Articles of Interest
Episode: Ep. 165: Talking Shop with Podcast Powerhouse Avery Trufelman [encore]
Gary Hustwit
Filmmaker and designer-focused documentarian behind Helvetica, Objectified, Urbanized, Rams
Independent filmmaker and Scenic VR
Episode: Ep. 29: Gary Hustwit [encore]
Patricia Urquiola
Architect and designer; guest on episode
Studio Urquiola; Casina (art direction)
Episode: Ep. 200: A Peek Inside Patricia Urquiola’s Curious and Magical Mind [encore]
Tanya Aguiñiga
Artist, designer, activist
Independent artist and designer
Episode: Ep. 13: Tanya Aguiñiga [encore]
Jay Osgerby
Industrial designer, co-founder of Barber Osgerby; partner in Universal Design Studio and MAP Project Office
Barber Osgerby, Universal, MAP
Episode: Ep. 163: Designer Jay Osgerby Shines a Light on Loss, Legacy, and Longevity [encore]
Michael Ford
Designer, educator, The Hip Hop Architect
The Hip Hop Architecture Camp; Universal Hip Hop Museum (Director of Design)
Episode: Ep.141: Hip Hop Architect Michael Ford [encore]
Jerry Helling
President and Creative Director of Bernhardt Design
Bernhardt Design
Episode: Ep. 56: Jerry Helling [encore]

Hosts

Amy Devers
Host of the show; designer and host guiding conversations with designers, architects, and makers.
Jamie Derringer
Co-host of the show; editor/host channeling design industry perspectives and guest conversations.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 725 ratings
  • Nourishing

    My curiosity and creativity feel energized after listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    The Actual Skinny Pete
    United Statesa year ago
  • Enriching

    In the latest episode Amy summed up her conversation with Lionel Ohayon as enriching and I realised that’s how I feel about every episode of this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Make, Do & Send
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Inspiring

    As a young architect this podcast has inspired me and guided me while I started my journey in the field. Amy asks amazing questions that help understand the meaning behind the design.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    L’arch
    Canada3 years ago
  • Amazingly amazing

    Clever is the only podcast I listen to. I am a graphic designer/art director and listening to all these people make feel less wired. I learn a lot and enjoy it tremendously. Thank you Amy Devers for the great show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lia.moudi
    United States3 years ago
  • 💜

    Great podcast, but there are way too many commercials.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    pezz26
    United States3 years ago

Listeners Say

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Audience appreciates tangible career guidance and design process details.
Thoughtful, insightful interviews that feel like you're in the room with designers.
Consistently engaging deep-dive conversations that inspire designers.
Hosts bring warmth and strong questions that reveal guest stories.

Chart Rankings

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Apple Podcasts
#100
United States/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#87
Canada/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#183
United Kingdom/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#37
Italy/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#85
France/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#173
Australia/Arts/Design

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Ep. 41: Ini Archibong [encore]
Q: How did mentorship shape your path, and what role did patrons play in your development?
Ini recounts pivotal mentorship moments, including his ceramics teacher Stuart Freed and an early architect mentor George (Tony George) who gave him a chance to learn on the job. He highlights Terry Crews as a later patron who supported his Solone Satellite project, stressing how mentors provided opportunities, trust, and a platform to translate his evolving talents into real-world work.
Ep. 41: Ini Archibong [encore]
Q: Can you tell us about your upbringing and Nigerian heritage growing up in America?
Ini describes a dual identity—born and raised in the U.S. with Nigerian heritage—growing up in Pasadena within a tight Nigerian community, which shaped his sense of culture and belonging. He explains how his household and neighborhood blended American and Nigerian influences, influencing his later creative work and worldview.
Ep. 89: VP of Google Hardware Design Ivy Ross [encore]
Q: How did your shift from jewelry to corporate design influence your approach to leadership and team dynamics?
I learned to value people's gifts, leverage teamwork like an orchestra, and create environments where individuals can contribute their best, which eventually led me to lead large design teams and pioneer new collaborative processes at major brands.
Ep. 89: VP of Google Hardware Design Ivy Ross [encore]
Q: Can you tell us about your childhood, your hometown and your family dynamic?
I grew up in the Bronx in a home designed by my father, who was deeply involved in design. This environment fostered a habit of looking beyond surface appearances and learning how things are connected, which shaped my later approach to making and design.
Ep. 213: The Quiet Rebellion of Biodesigner Natsai Audrey Chieza [encore]
Q: What led you to found Faber Futures and pursue biodesign?
After studying architecture and encountering a vibrant, female-led environment at Central Saint Martins, I sought to merge design with biology to address real-world sustainability challenges, building ecosystems and infrastructure that support equitable biotech rather than just creating isolated innovations.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Clever

What is Clever about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Clever features intimate, design-driven conversations with leading practitioners across architecture, product design, craft, and design storytelling. Episodes regularly explore how personal history, culture, and collaboration shape creative practice, from hands-on making to studio leadership and human-centered experiences of objects and spaces. Guests range from designers and architects to curators and biodesign pioneers, offering actionable insights on mentorship, process, and building enduring, impact-driven careers. The show often blends tactical design talk with personal narratives, giving aspiring guests and sponsors a clear view of the host's curious, community-focused lens and the interdisciplinary world she champions. A notable stre... more

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1. Design Matters with Debbie Millman
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3. Creative Confidence Podcast
4. Articles of Interest
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Recent guests on Clever include:

1. Ini Archibong
2. Ivy Ross
3. Avery Trufelman
4. Gary Hustwit
5. Patricia Urquiola
6. Tanya Aguiñiga
7. Jay Osgerby
8. Michael Ford

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