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Clever with Amy Devers

Amy Devers
Design
Creativity
Performance Arts
New York University
Lighting Design
Grief
Coil & Drift
Hip Hop
Salone Satellite
Architecture
Mental Health
Catskill Mountains
Hand Lettering
Graffiti Art
Malene Barnett
Hip Hop Architecture Camp
ADHD
Business Growth
Milan Furniture Fair
Freelancing

Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.

In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to u... more

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Cas Holman grew up playing make-believe in the woods and helping her mechanic step-dad fix cars and dune buggies. Always knowing that she didn’t check the stereotypical gender boxes, she never gave any of the other arbitrary “boxes” much credit eithe... more

Bradley L. Bowers spent his youth hanging in the basement with Grandma Dorothy while she upholstered furniture. Always outspoken, in high school he found that only the art teachers embraced his questioning of the status quo. A fruitful spell at SCAD ... more

Designer, researcher and author Ingrid Fetell Lee spent her childhood traveling back and forth between divorced parents, indulging her curiosity during unstructured time, and losing herself in books and her journal. Her professional path routed her t... more

For over 40+ years, Mick De Giulio has been dedicating his talents to designing kitchens that sing. It all starts with listening, and the results are masterpieces of flow, proportion, beauty, utility and emotional resonance. A devotee of craft, he’s ... more

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Recent Guests

Bradley L. Bowers
Designer specializing in interior design, product design, and new media art installations.
His own design studio in New Orleans
Episode: Ep. 196: Bradley L. Bowers on the Magic of Blending Technology and Craft [encore]
Ingrid Fetell Lee
Designer and author focusing on the intersection of design and joy.
Aesthetics of Joy
Episode: Ep. 86: Designer of Joy Ingrid Fetell Lee [encore]
Liz Ogbu
Designer, spatial justice activist, and community grief worker
Founder of Studio O
Episode: Ep. 232: Studio O’s Liz Ogbu on Spatial Justice and the Role of Design in Healing Grief
Stephanie Tinsley
Host of Everything They Missed and an investigative podcaster
Everything They Missed
Episode: Clever Presents: Everything They Missed
Molly Heintz
A writer and editor specializing in architecture and design, chair of the Master of Arts in Design Research, Writing, and Criticism at SVA.
School of Visual Arts
Episode: Ep. 230: SVA’s Molly Heintz on Why Design Writing Matters
Virginia B. Johnson
Costume designer and creative entrepreneur known for her culturally authentic costume designs.
Netflix's American Primeval
Episode: Ep. 229: Costume Designer Virginia B. Johnson Deploys Deep Craft and Rigorous Cultural Authenticity for Powerful Storytelling
Julia Watson
Designer, consultant, award-winning educator, and best-selling author focused on climate-resilient design through indigenous knowledge systems.
Lo-TEK Institute
Episode: Ep. 228: Lo-TEK’s Julia Watson on Applying Indigenous Knowledge to Climate-Adaptive Design
Aaron Draplin
Graphic designer known for his logo design and branding work, founder of Draplin Design Company, and creator of Field Notes notebooks.
Draplin Design Company
Episode: Ep. 74: Aaron Draplin [encore]
Cas Holman
An acclaimed designer for play, educator, and author of the upcoming book Playful.
Episode: Ep. 227: Designer Cas Holman is Giving Us All Permission to Play

Host

Amy Devers
Host of Clever, engaging listeners with insightful and candid conversations with industry leaders and creatives in design. Known for her thoughtful approach to interviewing, she discovers the personal stories that shape her guests' creative journeys.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 722 ratings
  • Nourishing

    My curiosity and creativity feel energized after listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    The Actual Skinny Pete
    United States8 months ago
  • Enriching

    In the latest episode Amy summed up her conversation with Lionel Ohayon as enriching and I realised that’s how I feel about every episode of this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Make, Do & Send
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Inspiring

    As a young architect this podcast has inspired me and guided me while I started my journey in the field. Amy asks amazing questions that help understand the meaning behind the design.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    L’arch
    Canada2 years ago
  • Amazingly amazing

    Clever is the only podcast I listen to. I am a graphic designer/art director and listening to all these people make feel less wired. I learn a lot and enjoy it tremendously. Thank you Amy Devers for the great show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lia.moudi
    United States3 years ago
  • 💜

    Great podcast, but there are way too many commercials.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    pezz26
    United States3 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the authentic and inspirational narratives shared by the host and guests, often mentioning how energized they feel after tuning in.
Some comments highlight overwhelming commercial breaks and question the host's giggling, which distracts from the content.
The podcast is praised for its insightful questions that reveal the personal motivations and backgrounds of creative professionals.

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#101
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Apple Podcasts
#179
Canada/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#188
United Kingdom/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#115
Germany/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#172
Australia/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#195
Italy/Arts/Design

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Ep. 196: Bradley L. Bowers on the Magic of Blending Technology and Craft [encore]
Q: What are your thoughts on recognition in relation to creativity?
He emphasizes the critical role of recognition in validating one's efforts and how it encourages personal growth.
Ep. 196: Bradley L. Bowers on the Magic of Blending Technology and Craft [encore]
Q: What was your experience during the transition to high school?
Bradley discusses the challenges he faced in social dynamics and authority during high school, and how he found comfort in art classes where he was recognized for his talents.
Ep. 196: Bradley L. Bowers on the Magic of Blending Technology and Craft [encore]
Q: Can you take me back to where you grew up and your family dynamic?
Bradley shares his early inspirations from family, especially his cousin who drew comics, which ignited his own passion for drawing.
Ep. 233: Clever Extra - Mick De Giulio on Designing Kitchens That Sing
Q: How are people using their kitchen today that they weren't using it 20 years ago?
The idea that it's not only cooking and dining and cleaning, but it's things like the kids are there doing homework and people are paying bills in their kitchen.
Ep. 233: Clever Extra - Mick De Giulio on Designing Kitchens That Sing
Q: With all of your talent and skill, why kitchens?
I think about for why I focused upon kitchens. The idea that it is so important to people as far as the room that people live in.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Clever

What is Clever about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The content revolves around the humanity embedded in design, offering listeners deep insights into the lives of influential designers, architects, and creatives who shape our physical and cultural environments. Conversations typically blend personal narratives with professional experiences, revealing the unique journeys of various guests across disciplines from architecture and graphic design to costume creation and design writing. A significant focus is placed on themes like cultural authenticity, community engagement, and the intersection of design with social justice, all delivered through candid dialogues that make the complexities of design accessible and relatable to a broad audience. With its engaging interviews and emphasis on story... more

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Recent guests on Clever include:

1. Bradley L. Bowers
2. Ingrid Fetell Lee
3. Liz Ogbu
4. Stephanie Tinsley
5. Molly Heintz
6. Virginia B. Johnson
7. Julia Watson
8. Aaron Draplin

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