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Clause 8

Eli Mazour
Intellectual Property
Patents
USPTO
Standard Essential Patents
Innovation
Coke Morgan Stewart
U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
Patent Strategy
IP Commercialization
Patent Examination
Startups
AI In IP Management
Avanci
Artificial Intelligence
Performance Appraisal Plan
Patent Valuation
Licensing Negotiations
Collaboration In Business
Cellular Technology
Automotive Industry

The podcast listened to by sophisticated in-house counsel, judges from around the world, IP policymakers, senior USPTO officials, and top patent dealmakers and attorneys to stay ahead of the curve by understanding the personalities and forces shaping IP. Eli Mazour’s love of talking to people – along with his belief in the importance of America’s patent system – led him to start Clause 8. Clause 8... more

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At the Via Licensing Alliance’s Bridge Summit 2025 in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who ushered in the modern age of patent pools: Garrard Beeney, founder of Sullivan & Cromwell’s IP practice, and John Sideris, Pri... more

In this episode of Clause 8, Deputy Commissioner for Patents Jerry Lorengo joins host Eli Mazour to share valuable, practical insights for patent professionals navigating the USPTO’s new Performance Appraisal Plan (PAP).

Jerry discusses what’s chang... more

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When I first heard about Lisa Ascolese, known as “The Inventress,” I knew I wanted to bring her story to Clause 8.

Lisa’s path into inventing began after her family moved to Brooklyn, New York, where her creativity and curiosity found room to grow. ... more

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At the Via LA 2025 Bridge Summit in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who play pivotal roles in connecting innovators and licensees around the world:

* Jane Bu, Chief Licensing Officer at Via LA, the world’s largest p... more

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Recent Guests

Julie Burke
Former USPTO examiner with a background in cancer immunology, quality assurance specialist, and author in the patent field.
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Clint Mehall
Patent attorney with over 17 years of experience in patent prosecution and strategic patent practices.
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Patrick Murray
Entrepreneur and inventor, founder of Radium Payments
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Episode: The Remaining Power of the US Patent System
Lisa Mueller
Host of the AUTM on the Air podcast and tech transfer expert
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David Boundy
Leading authority on the intersection of administrative law and the USPTO, former vice president of intellectual property at Cantor Fitzgerald
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Ariel Dubinsky
Founder and owner of Ariel Dubinsky Law Firm specializing in intellectual property law
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Episode: Soft IP in the Start-up Nation with Ariel Dubinsky
Sri Atluri
Chief IP Counsel at Walmart
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Episode: IP Strategy at Walmart: Balancing Innovation, Protection, and Practicality in a Global Retail Giant
Laurie Fitzgerald
President of Avanci Vehicle, a leader in standard essential patents.
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Episode: Avanci Vehicle President Laurie Fitzgerald on Building SEP's Field of Dreams
Alec Sorensen
Founder and CEO of Tradespace, expert in IP commercialization
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Episode: Alec Sorensen on Keeping IP Rembrandts Out of the Attic

Host

Eli Mazour
Host with a deep passion for intellectual property and a commitment to exploring the dynamics shaping the patent landscape.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 58 ratings
  • Best Podcast for Patent Law

    A must listen for anyone interested in patent law and IP policy

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    旅游boy
    United States3 years ago
  • Great interviews

    Whether you are an experienced professional or someone looking to get into the field, Clause 8 is a great source of info from a variety of sources. Eli has top notch guests and asks great questions.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cmehaller
    United States4 years ago
  • Well done podcast

    Very interesting patent law podcast. Would recommend to anyone in the field.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Danny patent
    United States5 years ago
  • Intellectual...Property

    Intellectual Property is a facet of society that has an impact on all of us.

    Started listening to this podcast to try and gain insight into IP, and what is going on currently to help me- as a consumer.

    After googling Eli Mazour, I was able to see he had dedicated his life to this cause.

    Most impressive is the caliber of guests he is able to interview. Truly, movers and shakers within the field.

    Always an interesting listen!

    UPDATE: Eli Mazour always managing to get top notch guests on the... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ashdizzledeez
    United States6 years ago
  • Clause 8 gives us Expert Incite in the Patent Field

    I am privileged to have Eli as a colleague at H&H. Not only are his guests experts, but Eli is an expert himself as a goto resource for any and all patent eligibility issues/questions. It is great to hear him getting the word out on the world of patents and IP!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KRH II
    United States6 years ago

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Offers great insights and is a valuable resource for professionals and newcomers alike.
The host skilled in interviews maximizes the potential of every discussion, leading to informative and engaging dialogue.
Highly recommended for anyone interested in patent law and IP policy.
Listeners appreciate the variety and qualifications of guests, often remarking on their expertise and relevance.

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Talking Points

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Exclusive Interview: USPTO Deputy Commissioner Explains Changes to Examiner Performance Plan
Q: What advice would you give to examiners who feel like whatever they do, the supervisor is just not happy?
Examiners should build their relationship with their supervisors and reach out to group directors if they face unreasonable situations.
Exclusive Interview: USPTO Deputy Commissioner Explains Changes to Examiner Performance Plan
Q: Can you tell a little bit about what is the PAP and what is its role and how examiners do it drop?
The Performance Appraisal Plan (PAP) is a set of expectations for federal examiners that entails requirements for production, quality, document management, and professional interaction.
Exclusive: USPTO AI Co-Chairs Reassure Stakeholders on Guidance & Share Journey of Shaping USPTO's Approach to AI
Q: How can these AI technologies be leveraged for the USPTO?
Jerry noted that there were prior efforts in AI before his arrival, and his task was to identify unresolved gaps and how those could be addressed by AI.
Exclusive: USPTO AI Co-Chairs Reassure Stakeholders on Guidance & Share Journey of Shaping USPTO's Approach to AI
Q: Is it difficult to develop guidance in light of these changes in AI?
One challenge in developing guidance is that many examiners lack formal legal training but need to apply complex areas of law, which necessitates thorough training and clear examples.
Exclusive: USPTO AI Co-Chairs Reassure Stakeholders on Guidance & Share Journey of Shaping USPTO's Approach to AI
Q: When you guys first met? And what did you think about somebody with, I guess, Jerry's background joining the USPTO and the impact he might have?
Charles recalls that he was co-leading the AI working group and felt Jerry would bring significant value due to his background, despite some initial concerns about Jerry being relatively new.

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Content focuses on the intricacies of intellectual property law, particularly patent systems, featuring a variety of guests from diverse backgrounds including federal judges, patent attorneys, and industry innovators. The discussions delve into strategic insights, recent changes at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO), and the importance of patent protection in fostering innovation. Listeners can expect detailed conversations about policy shifts, patent valuations, and the role of intellectual property in business, making it a critical resource for legal professionals, inventors, and policymakers.

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1. Julie Burke
2. Clint Mehall
3. Patrick Murray
4. Lisa Mueller
5. David Boundy
6. Ariel Dubinsky
7. Sri Atluri
8. Laurie Fitzgerald

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