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Beyond Jaws: Exploring Shark Science and Conservation

Speak Up For Blue
Shark Conservation
Marine Biology
Sharks
Marine Conservation
Shark Science
Conservation
Jaws
Great White Sharks
Marine Science
Shark Ecology
Shark Week
Whale Sharks
Tiger Sharks
Ecology
NOAA Fisheries
Shark Research
Orcas
Shark Biology
Genetics
Sharkspeak

Dr. David Ebert and Andrew Lewin interview shark scientists and conservationists to find out the steps they took that lead them to study and work with sharks. Interviews include stories of field shenanigans; career choices and advice; and, the science of sharks that may or may not include great white sharks...mostly not.

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Dave Ebert returns from a five-week journey across South Africa, Sri Lanka, and the Maldives, sharing stories from shark research, Sharks International, mentoring young scientists, and the search for lost sharks. This episode explores why taxonomy st... more

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Ocean careers rarely follow a straight line. In this episode of How to Protect the Ocean, Dave Ebert takes over the host chair to interview Andrew Lewin about his career journey, from marine biology and consulting to podcasting, science communication... more

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Great white sharks have disappeared from some of South Africa's most famous shark hotspots, but the reason may not be as simple as the popular story suggests. In this episode, Chris Fallows returns to talk about orcas, white sharks, shark nets, longl... more

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Ocean Conservation feels like it's everywhere, but are we actually making a difference, or just telling ourselves we are? In this episode, we break down what really works in ocean protection and why so many well-intentioned efforts fall short. If you... more

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Recent Guests

Andrew Lewin
Special guest; co-host who took over the show to discuss his career pivot
Beyond Jaws / How to Protect the Ocean
Episode: How Do You Build an Ocean Career When You Live Inland?
Chris Fallows
World-renowned wildlife photographer focusing on sharks; former guest
Self/Photographer
Episode: Are Orcas Really to Blame for the Missing Great Whites?
Daniel Fernando
Co-founder of the Blue Resources Trust; director of the Blue Resources Trust Fisheries and Policy Program in Sri Lanka
Blue Resources Trust
Episode: The Big Question at Sharks International 2026: Are We Saving Sharks the Right Way?
Ghofrane Labyedh
Aquatic biologist and ocean conservationist; regional lead for West and Central Africa Elasmo Brain Coalition for the Manta Trust; AMCOO affiliation; National Geographic Explorer
Manta Trust; African Marine Conservation Organization (AMCOO)
Episode: She Built Shark Science Where Almost Nobody Was Looking
Zoya Tiabji
PhD candidate at Dalhousie University; shark and ray fisheries researcher
Dalhousie University
Episode: She Didn't Plan to Study Sharks, Then Everything Changed in the Bay of Bengal
Raffid Shidqi
Co-founder and director of Thresher Shark Indonesia; PhD student
Thresher Shark Indonesia; Duke University
Episode: He Couldn't Become a Doctor… So He Built a Shark Conservation Movement
Marta Palacios
Marine biologist; director and co-founder of Mobula Conservation Project
Mobula Conservation Project
Episode: She Moved Across the World to Study Devil Rays… Here's Why It Matters
Rachel Graham
Founder and Director of the Mar Alliance Organization, expert in shark conservation
Mar Alliance
Episode: What Scientists Just Discovered About Tiger Shark Migration
Stella Diamant
Founder and director of the Madagascar Whale Shark Project Foundation
Madagascar Whale Shark Project Foundation
Episode: The Giant Shark Scientists Still Don't Understand, New Discoveries from Madagascar

Hosts

Andrew Lewin
Host of Beyond Jaws: Exploring Shark Science and Conservation; co-host of the Beyond Jaws podcast; involved in guiding interviews and podcast production.
Dr. David Ebert
Co-host and shark scientist; frequently shares scientific context, hosts interviews, and provides expert commentary.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 41 ratings
  • This podcast was such a perfect find!

    I am not sure how I stumbled across this podcast, but this is the rare-to-find elasmobranch podcast I’ve been missing! I am a PhD student at JCU working on coastal stingrays, and it’s so great there is a podcast spreading our love of sharks and rays to a broader audience. I particularly liked the interview with Dr. Chin!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    fugyij
    United States4 years ago

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Engaging host duo with solid guest selection.
Accessible yet scientifically rigorous storytelling that broadens shark science reach.
Great for newcomers and seasoned researchers alike; strong focus on conservation impact.
Diverse, global guest slate keeps content fresh and informed.

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#233
United States/Science/Nature
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#167
Canada/Science/Nature
Apple Podcasts
#199
Australia/Science/Nature
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#205
Germany/Science/Nature
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#20
Singapore/Science/Nature
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#51
Mexico/Science/Nature

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She Built Shark Science Where Almost Nobody Was Looking
Q: Where do you see your career going in the next 5-20 years?
Aiming to blend acoustic telemetry and genetics to confirm nursery grounds and deepen understanding of Cameroon's biodiversity, while continuing outreach and education through practical fieldwork.
She Built Shark Science Where Almost Nobody Was Looking
Q: So, like, can you describe just sort of that entire process for me in terms of building relationships with the government and the fishers?
It's a long, patient process; you must be empathetic, present parallel strategies, and avoid relying on promises. You create spaces for dialogue among government, fishers, and scientists to co-create practical solutions.
Scientists Thought Sawfish Were Gone… They Were Wrong
Q: How effective is the incentive-based approach for protecting sawfish, and is it sustainable long-term?
Initial results show that small, well-structured bonuses motivate fishers to check nets more frequently and release sawfish quickly, significantly reducing mortality; sustainability depends on maintaining incentivization and expanding protections to broader areas.
Scientists Thought Sawfish Were Gone… They Were Wrong
Q: What makes the Panama site so dangerous to work in, and how did you manage to operate there safely?
The environment is mountainous, jungle, riverine, and heavily patrolled by police and military; the key was building strong local relationships with indigenous fishers and authorities, so researchers could operate with proper check-ins and trust.
The Giant Shark Scientists Still Don't Understand, New Discoveries from Madagascar
Q: What advice would you have for someone interested in pursuing a career like yours, perhaps starting an NGO?
She cautions it is a lot of work and sacrifice, urges potential entrants to assess their strengths and passions, and highlights the growing diversity of conservation careers beyond academia, including leadership, fundraising, and effective communication.

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2. Chris Fallows
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4. Ghofrane Labyedh
5. Zoya Tiabji
6. Raffid Shidqi
7. Marta Palacios
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