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Between the Lines with FGI

Facility Guidelines Institute (FGI)
Residential Care
Autonomy In Care
Health Care Design
Food Preparation
Dining Spaces
Health Care Facilities
Healthcare Design
Health Guidelines
Cognitive Impairment
FGI Guidelines
Patient Safety
Health Care Facilities Innovation Conference
Patient Experience
FGI Facility Code
Health Guidelines Revision Committee
Intellectual Property Rights
MRI Safety
Safe Patient Handling
Individuals Of Size
Plumbing

Curious about the health care physical environment? Join John Williams and Marissa Lamperis Kastrinos for serial fun on a serious topic as they discuss the FGI Code for Planning and Design and compliance issues with some of the world’s top thinkers and designers. Explore the history of the minimum standards and intent between the lines of the code.

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In this episode of Between the Lines with FGI, cohosts John Williams and Marissa Lamperis Kastrinos are joined by ASHE’s Leah Hummel and Chad Beebe for a conversation recorded live at HFIC. The discussion focuses on the Joint Commission’s upcoming co... more

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In this episode of Between the Lines with FGI, cohosts John Williams and Bridget McDougall sit down with Dr. Marie Martin from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to discuss the critical topic of safe patient handling and mobility. Dr. Martin sha... more

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Recent Guests

Christoph Lohr
Plumbing engineer, columnist, podcaster, and VP of technical services at Iapmo
Iapmo
Episode: S2 E7 – Plumbing Standards and Health Care Facility Design
Dr. Marie Martin
Program analyst for the Safe Patient Handling and Mobility Program
Department of Veterans Affairs
Episode: S2 E6 – Accommodating Individuals of Size in Health Care
Laurie Waggener
Director of Research for Healthcare at Page
Page
Episode: S2 E5 – Surfaces in Health Care Settings + Evidence-Based Design
Toby Gilk
An architect, MRI radiology safety expert, and speaker
FGI's Health Guidelines Revision Committee
Episode: S2 E4 – MRI Safety and the Built Environment
Heather Livingston
CEO of the Facility Guidelines Institute
Facility Guidelines Institute
Episode: S2 E3 – Changes Ahead: Intellectual Property Rights and the Future of the Guidelines
Kathy Easter
Assistant Vice President for Nursing Excellence with a focus on patient experience
Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital
Episode: S2 E2 – Built Environment Impacts on Operations and the Patient Experience
Jeff O'Neill
Vice President of Facilities Design and Construction
Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital
Episode: S2 E2 – Built Environment Impacts on Operations and the Patient Experience
Leah Hummel
Guest involved with discussing the 2026 FGI Facility Code revisions
Episode: S2 E1 – What’s New in the 2026 FGI Facility Code Drafts
Jane Rohde
Principal and founder of JSR Associates, known for her work on the Residential Guidelines document
JSR Associates
Episode: E10 – Designing Care Spaces with Our Future Selves in Mind: Jane Rohde

Hosts

John Williams
Vice President of Content and Outreach and Chair of the 2026 Health Guidelines Revision Committee.
Bridget McDougall
Associate Editor with FGI.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Essential

    If you are involved with health care design then this podcast is essential. The guests provide valuable insights into why the guidelines have the requirements/helpful addendums they do. This often includes the history. As an AHJ these podcasts have informed how I review a project.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ghornsby3
    United Statesa year ago
  • Thank you!

    Bridget and John,

    Thank you for hosting this podcast. The context of the “why” and the “who” of the guidelines brings the guidelines to life for me. Keep them coming!

    John

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    FloatingheadDM
    United States2 years ago
  • Between the lines

    Very interesting

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Luis F del Castillo
    United States2 years ago
  • Interesting and informative

    As a nurse emerging into the healthcare design world this podcast is not only educational but also interesting. I will recommend to all of my healthcare friends interested in healthcare design!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KSpringer27
    United States2 years ago
  • E4: It was a pleasure!

    Fellow IPs! Listen to episode 4 where I get to talk about how the IP fits into the process of design & construction! Actually, listen to all the episodes bc they are great as foundational knowledge for all of us!! Until we get to talk again… thanks John & Bridget!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lela Luper
    United States2 years ago

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

E10 – Designing Care Spaces with Our Future Selves in Mind: Jane Rohde
Q: Could you describe the resident mobility and transfer risk assessment?
The assessment is about evaluating whom they care for, focusing on aging and mobility needs, and ensuring the design accommodates these aspects to prevent falls.
E10 – Designing Care Spaces with Our Future Selves in Mind: Jane Rohde
Q: Can you help folks understand kind of the totality of what's in this document and what kind of spaces are broken down into what pockets?
Jane describes the evaluation process which looks at the continuum of care and demographic perspectives, highlighting the need for community-focussed environments.
E8 – The Sound of Silence: Mandy Kachur
Q: What are some of the biggest mistakes that you see out there from folks that are just not acoustic savvy when it comes to building patient care spaces?
Common mistakes include issues with sound isolation, room acoustics, and HVAC—especially not getting the structural components right, which can be costlier to fix later.
E8 – The Sound of Silence: Mandy Kachur
Q: Can you help give folks an idea of the sources of noise that we're talking about that you would expect to see in a healthcare environment?
Many sources come from the staff or machinery used in healthcare settings; FGI aims to improve the environment for all users by implementing sound-absorbing surfaces and proper sound isolation.
S2 E2 – Built Environment Impacts on Operations and the Patient Experience
Q: Where do you see future need of codes that can support the patient experience?
It's about how to make the environment easier to navigate and more comforting for patients.

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This podcast provides an insightful exploration of the health care physical environment, focusing primarily on the Facility Guidelines Institute (FGI) Code for Planning and Design. The discussions, led by knowledgeable hosts, engage various experts who delve into compliance issues and the history of minimum standards within health care design. Topics include the significance of surfaces in health care settings, accommodating individuals of varying sizes, plumbing standards, and MRI safety, among others. It distinguishes itself by intertwining rigorous technical discussions with a light-hearted approach, aiming to make complex design standards accessible and engaging for listeners in related industries.

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1. Christoph Lohr
2. Dr. Marie Martin
3. Laurie Waggener
4. Toby Gilk
5. Heather Livingston
6. Kathy Easter
7. Jeff O'Neill
8. Leah Hummel

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