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Between The Covers : Conversations with Writers in Fiction, Nonfiction & Poetry

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Latest Episodes

Claudia Rankine first appeared on Between the Covers in 2014 to discuss Citizen: An American Lyric. Our first encounter back then was before January 6th or October 7th, before Trump 1.0 or Trump 2.0, before the public murder of George Floyd or the li... more

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We welcome back Valeria Luiselli—who first appeared on the show eleven years ago—to discuss her new and truly marvelous novel Beginning Middle End. Much like the shapeshifting god Proteus, who figures prominently in this story, Beginning Middle End i... more

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Today’s archival conversation, recorded in 2019, is Cristina Rivera Garza’s first unforgettable appearance on the show. We discuss two works of fiction by her, The Taiga Syndrome and The Iliac Crest. Poet Daniel Borzutsky says of the first, “If The T... more

Today’s guest is writer, poet and translator Eleni Sikelianos. We discuss her hybrid-genre, ancestral memoir Memory Rehearsal, a work that moves between poetry and prose, image and text, human and animal, history and mythology, and perhaps most of al... more

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Recent Guests

Claudia Rankine
Poet, essayist, playwright; author of Triage
Between The Covers / Milkweed Editions
Episode: Claudia Rankine : Triage
Valeria Luiselli
Author of Beginning Middle End
Episode: Valeria Luiselli : Beginning Middle End
Cristina Rivera Garza
Writer, translator, critic; author of The Tyga Syndrome and The Iliac Crest
Writer, translator, critic (University of Houston)
Episode: From the Archives : Cristina Rivera Garza : The Taiga Syndrome & The Iliac Crest
Eleni Sikelianos
Poet, writer and translator; subject of Memory Rehearsal
Independent/Author
Episode: Eleni Sikelianos : Memory Rehearsal
Kate Briggs
Past Between The Covers guest
Writer/Scholar
Episode: Lisa Robertson : Riverwork
Lucy Bonvalet
Visual artist and writer; spouse of the host
Artist/Writer
Episode: Lisa Robertson : Riverwork
Sarah Dowling
Poet and scholar
Coach House/University context
Episode: Lisa Robertson : Riverwork
Jennifer Cabot
Author of The Eighth Moon and Night Shining
Milkweed/Milkweed imprint
Episode: Lisa Robertson : Riverwork
Luc y Bonvalet
Visual artist and writer; spouse of host
Artist/Writer
Episode: Lisa Robertson : Riverwork

Host

David Naimon
Host of the show, known for deeply researched, close-reading style conversations with writers across fiction, nonfiction and poetry.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 905 ratings
  • So Good

    As others have written this podcast is to be greatly admired. David, the host, has clearly done a huge amount of reading/ research prior to each episode so the explorations with each of the authors interviewed are so rewarding to listen to. I am immensely grateful to be able to listen to this podcast and wholly recommend it to anyone who is / might be interested in literature. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PineGroveCharlie
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • What a gift!

    I decided to go back to the beginning while I wait for a new conversation. I’m so grateful for the expansive archive you’ve built and made accessible. And I’m re-listening, too. I’m going back for another dose of you and Brandon Shimoda. We need a kind of club for these chats. I don’t even know where to start with that. I feel bereft after each podcast. Every last one.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jobitek
    Canada5 months ago
  • Thrilling and thought-provoking

    Thank you for the episode with the glorious Robin Coste Lewis

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lisa Blumenfeld
    United States9 months ago
  • Incredibly rich and deep

    Absolutely gorgeous guests, thoughtful preparation and profound conversations. My only request would be for the host to speak about 40% less to let the guests take up more time. While David’s questions are often so rich and steeped in care, sometimes they tend to center him and his thinking instead of the guest. I still found both episodes I listened to deeply moving and transcendent but I did find myself craving more of the guest’s voice. Thank you though that this exists what a gift!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LLaurenne
    United Statesa year ago
  • Best Lit Podcast out there

    One time I thought this podcast was being cancelled and I literally sank to the kitchen floor in tears. David Naimon does so many writers so much justice and you can hear it in their responses

    to his incredibly thoughtful questions. This podcast is a beautiful portal to webs of writers dreaming and writing towards better worlds !

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lolalou89
    United Statesa year ago

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Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Listeners praise the host's preparation and the depth of conversation, calling episodes rewardingly rigorous and expansive.
Patrons highlight the episode breadth and the quality of author interviews.
Show is valued as a unique, highly researched literary resource with broad, global perspectives.
Guests are described as deeply insightful with substantial background and thought-provoking ideas.
Some listeners occasionally critique the host for speaking too much and want more guest voice in long conversations.

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#128
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#58
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#165
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Claudia Rankine : Triage
Q: Why Antigone, and what does it offer your current work on triage?
Antigone functions as a structural mirror for the book's preoccupation with duty, law, and the calculation of care; placing Ismene against Antigone allows Rankine to explore competing forms of responsibility in a contemporary setting.
Valeria Luiselli : Beginning Middle End
Q: Hasmina Barrera asks about whether Beginning Middle End treats fiction as consuelo in the face of pain and how consuelo operates within the book's structure.
Luiselli explains consuelo as a form of intimate, shared comfort that emerges from reading and storytelling, especially when confronting violence and grief, and discusses how the book uses memory, multi-generational voices, and myth to offer solace.
Valeria Luiselli : Beginning Middle End
Q: Enrique Villamagnos asks about Kafka and humor, and why the author doesn't find Kafka humorous while still acknowledging it as a serious writer.
Luiselli discusses humor as a serious, often unsettling force in literature and argues that humor appears differently in Kafka, Bila Matas, and Samantha Schweblin, serving to reveal the absurdity and violence of reality without reducing it to comedy.
Eleni Sikelianos : Memory Rehearsal
Q: How does Memory Rehearsal balance archive material with lived experience and myth?
The book uses memory as a performative archive, allowing ghosts and living beings to speak through weaving, song, and gesture, while still attending to historical records and photographs in a way that resists a single authoritative narrative.
Lisa Robertson : Riverwork
Q: What is the origin story of your interest in the river Biavre and the framing for Riverwork?
The interest began with the site of the Biav river, its history of textile industry and pollution, and a parallel curiosity about a great aunt who disappeared; these two absences were meant to be woven together, not through a traditional plot but through overlapping questions and archival dreams.

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A deep-dedicated literary interview series that centers detailed conversations with writers across fiction, nonfiction and poetry. Episodes frequently explore craft, form, and the socio-political dimensions of literature—ranging from Indigenous memory and diaspora to science fiction, gender, race, and justice—often pairing archival materials with rigorous close reading. Noteworthy is the host's extensive preparation and breadth of guests, which makes it a rich resource for listeners who crave nuanced analysis, cross-genre insights, and historical context in literary work.

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1. Claudia Rankine
2. Valeria Luiselli
3. Cristina Rivera Garza
4. Eleni Sikelianos
5. Kate Briggs
6. Lucy Bonvalet
7. Sarah Dowling
8. Jennifer Cabot

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