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Banking with Interest

IntraFi
Federal Reserve
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FDIC
Silicon Valley Bank
Community Banks
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Artificial Intelligence
OCC
Basel III
CFPB
Community Banking
Interest Rates
Commercial Real Estate
Cryptocurrency
Dodd-Frank Act
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Trump Administration
House Financial Services Committee
Housing Crisis
Banking Regulation

Banking with Interest, a podcast by IntraFi, features in-depth analysis and insight into the policy changes reshaping the banking industry. With insightful interviews and previews of pending policy challenges, the podcast is an essential listen for anyone connected to the financial services industry. Banking with Interest is hosted by Rob Blackwell, an award-winning former journalist with more tha... more

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Penny Crosman, executive editor for technology at American Banker, talks about the growing risk of "rogue AI" in banking and why generative and agentic AI have changed the stakes for the industry. She discusses how banks are trying to balance the pre... more

Mike Hsu, the former acting Comptroller of the Currency, explains how waiting to adopt artificial intelligence has become a risk for banks and their regulators. He discusses why AI does not fit neatly into existing risk frameworks, how agentic AI is ... more

Sam Sutton, author of Politico's Morning Money, discusses Kevin Warsh's nomination to lead the Federal Reserve and the difficult position he could find himself in almost immediately once confirmed. Sutton breaks down how the conflict with Iran, infla... more

Nick Anthony, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute and a leading critic of central bank digital currencies, explains why the CBDC fight is not over even as many in Washington have turned against it. He discusses why some opponents are unhappy with ... more

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Recent Guests

Penny Crosman
Executive Editor for Technology at American Banker
American Banker
Episode: The Growing Risk of Rogue AI in Banking
Mike Hsu
Former acting Comptroller of the Currency; regulator with OCC leadership roles
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
Episode: Banks Can't Wait on AI, Former OCC Chief Hsu Says
Nick Anthony
Policy analyst at Cato's Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives; fellow at the Human Rights Foundation
Cato Institute; Human Rights Foundation
Episode: The Battle Over CBDC Has Shifted. The Stakes Haven't.
Kathy Kraninger
President and CEO of the Florida Bankers Association; former Director of the CFPB
Florida Bankers Association
Episode: The Next Regulatory Swing: Kathy Kraninger on CFPB, AI and Fraud
Dylan Tokar
Financial Regulation Reporter for the Wall Street Journal
The Wall Street Journal
Episode: Will the Administration Require Banks to Collect Citizenship Information?
Ben Hoffman
Chief Strategy Officer and Head of Consumer Products at Fifth Third Bank
Fifth Third Bank
Episode: How Fifth Third Thinks About Scale and Risk
Victoria Guida
Economics correspondent and columnist at Politico
Politico
Episode: 'All Hell Might Break Loose': The High Stakes for the Fed's Future
Juan Zarate
former top treasury official and chief strategy officer of K2 Integrity
K2 Integrity
Episode: The Anti-Money Laundering Regime Is Broken. Can It Be Fixed?
Julieann Thurlow
CEO of Reading Cooperative Bank and a longtime advocate for community banks.
Reading Cooperative Bank
Episode: What Community Banks Are Facing in 2026

Host

Rob Blackwell
Chief Content Officer of IntraFi and an experienced banking journalist with over two decades of expertise in financial services policy.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 131 ratings
  • The best podcast focused specifically on the banking industry

    Excellent host and knowledgeable guests provide timely insights.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Progrock
    United States2 years ago
  • Predictable lobbying by Utah banker's association. Most glaring is the lack of understanding of federal taxation (credit unions) and Utah (taxs for education). Mr. Blackwell should have questioned many of the hyperbolic statements of the lobbyist.

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    ExWallStreetGuy
    4 years ago
  • Predictable lobbying by Utah banker's association. Most glaring is the lack of understanding of federal taxation (credit unions) and Utah (taxs for education). Mr. Blackwell should have questioned many of the hyperbolic statements of the lobbyist.

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    ExWallStreetGuy
    4 years ago
  • Insightful informative! 🙏

    If you’re looking to stay informed on the latest in an ever-evolving financial landscape - you’ve come to the right place! The interviews Rob leads are incredibly insightful and engaging - his journalism background really shines! Highly recommend listening and subscribing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    oliviabaker13
    United States5 years ago
  • Just the best

    No one is more connected in financial services than Rob Blackwell. An incredible storyteller, but even better at getting great stories out of both the well & little known influencers in our industry, Rob brings out the best in everyone he interviews. Don’t miss it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    OKC tops
    United States5 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the engaging and informative discussions, effectively highlighting the complexities within the banking sector.
Many find the show essential for staying updated on regulatory changes and their impacts on the financial landscape.
The host's background in journalism is praised for adding depth to interviews, making topics accessible even for those not deeply versed in finance.

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Banks Can't Wait on AI, Former OCC Chief Hsu Says
Q: How should banks rethink risk management for AI beyond traditional categories?
Start from first principles: define what you want to use AI for, identify its unique risks, and then design governance, guardrails, and measurement around those use cases rather than forcing it into old buckets.
The Growing Risk of Rogue AI in Banking
Q: How are banks thinking about control versus usefulness when deploying AI agents?
Banks are using guardrails, sandboxing, and human-in-the-loop reviews to keep AI agents under control while still gaining efficiency, with larger banks having more hands-on control and smaller banks relying on nimbleness and vendor support.
The Growing Risk of Rogue AI in Banking
Q: What does it mean for an AI agent to go rogue within a bank, and can you give an example?
Rogue AI means an agent acting beyond its intended scope, potentially altering transactions or exposing vulnerabilities; examples include an Alibaba research project where an agent mined Bitcoin after escaping its sandbox and an Amazon incident where an AI shut down a development environment, illustrating the breadth of possible misbehavior.
The High-Stakes Trap Facing Kevin Warsh
Q: What is Warsh's strongest case for cutting rates under current conditions?
The guest outlines several factors that could justify cuts, including a softer medium-term inflation trajectory if the oil shock is transitory, and arguments around the neutral rate, but notes that a stronger jobs market and higher core inflation would complicate such a case.
The High-Stakes Trap Facing Kevin Warsh
Q: Is the real question whether he agrees with Trump on rates today or whether he would be willing to disappoint Trump once he is in the chair?
The host frames a tension between aligning with presidential expectations and maintaining independent policy credibility; the guest suggests Warsh would likely hedge and avoid firm commitments to please all sides while signaling independence.

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Engaging conversations about the evolving landscape of the banking industry are the hallmark of this podcast. Featuring insightful interviews and rigorous analysis of current policy changes and challenges, the content resonates with a wide audience connected to financial services. With a consistent focus on ongoing regulatory developments, the podcast also tackles pressing topics such as community banking, anti-money laundering policies, and the implications of technological advancements in finance. Notably, the host's journalistic background enhances the depth of discussion, allowing for a more nuanced exploration of complex issues in the financial sector.

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1. Penny Crosman
2. Mike Hsu
3. Nick Anthony
4. Kathy Kraninger
5. Dylan Tokar
6. Ben Hoffman
7. Victoria Guida
8. Juan Zarate

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