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Apple News In Conversation with Shumita Basu brings you interviews with some of the world’s best journalists and experts about the stories that impact our lives. Join us every week as we go behind the headlines.

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This episode originally aired on July 10, 2025.

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This week, Brian Goldstone was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for his book, There Is No Place for Us, which is featured in this episode from our archives.

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The headlines say that American men are in crisis. But what does that actually mean — and what does it look like up close? Journalist Jordan Ritter Conn spent five years inside the lives of four different men to find out. His new book, American Men, ... more

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Adam Serwer
Staff writer at The Atlantic, longtime analyst on race and American democracy
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Episode: How one Supreme Court decision could shift political power for decades
Brian Goldstone
Journalist and Anthropologist, author of There Is No Place for Us, Working and Homeless in America
Author, Journalist
Episode: Rebroadcast: They work full-time jobs. Why are they homeless?
Jordan Ritter Conn
Author of American Men
Author, American Men
Episode: The real reason American men are struggling
Scott Detrow
Host of NPR's All Things Considered, author of American Pope. Leo XIV's Road From the South Side of Chicago to Vatican City
NPR
Episode: The unique power of an American pope
Clay Routledge
Psychologist and author of Past Forward
Archbridge Institute
Episode: How to make nostalgia your psychological superpower
Anna Wiener
Contributing writer at The New Yorker, author of pieces on AI companions
The New Yorker
Episode: Why so many people are falling in love with AI chatbots
Andy Greenberg
Senior writer for Wired, known for cybersecurity reporting
Wired
Episode: He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.
Mohammed Muzahir
Former scam compound whistleblower who participated in the investigation
Self/Whistleblower
Episode: He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.
Samantha King
Health scholar and co-author of Protein, The Making of a Nutritional Superstar
University of [unspecified] / co-author
Episode: Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

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Sam Sanders
Host of In Conversation on Apple News, frequently guiding discussions with analytical framing and historical context.
Shumita Basu
Host of Apple News In Conversation with a focus on thoughtful interviewing and clear, engaging delivery.
Anna Wiener
Contributing Writer at The New Yorker, featured for discussions on AI and technology narratives.

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    Héctor Vega cruz
    United States2 months ago
  • Thoughts on the protein episode

    The protein episode is a classic example of academics attacking marketing excess and turning it into an overreaction that leads to bad advice. Frankly it is worse advice than what the ads market.

    While they make a fair point about protein marketing getting over the top, the episode undermines itself by arguing most people don’t need to think about protein at all. This is very misleading and misguided. The “most Americans get enough” argument made is based on the minimum amount a sedentary lifes... more

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  • Great Series!

    Where is the host?

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  • I don’t like to at all 🤮

    Her voice is so not right there is something wrong with this podcast

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  • Always great

    Shamita is Amazing love this pod

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The real reason American men are struggling
Q: What is the biggest way writing this book changed the way you do manhood?
Writing the book made the author more direct in personal relationships, encouraging intimate, honest conversations beyond the interview setting, and reinforced that the concepts of manhood are broader than public achievement or physical prowess, emphasizing empathy, care, and connection.
The real reason American men are struggling
Q: Let's talk about the four characters in your book, the four men in your book. Tell us who these four guys are.
The four men are Ryan, a Mohawk man from upstate New York who grapples with his sexuality and anger; Gideon, a West Point graduate whose life is upended by his wife's affair; Joseph, a law student and Iraq War veteran dealing with childhood trauma while navigating marriage and career; and Nate, a Gen Z trans man in a small town who balances online identity with real-world living, finding meaning in everyday work and friendships.
How to make nostalgia your psychological superpower
Q: How should individuals manage nostalgia to avoid negative effects like declineism while still gaining its benefits?
People should use nostalgia as a tool for inspiration and social bonding, not as a retreat from current realities. If nostalgia leads to pessimism or polarized thinking, it may veer into declineism; if used mindfully, it can enhance empathy, openness, and balanced views toward technology and social change.
How to make nostalgia your psychological superpower
Q: What is causing Gen Z to feel nostalgic for the 1990s and what does nostalgia do for us psychologically?
Nostalgia arises as a way to cope with current anxieties and a desire for tangible, human connections. It can serve as a self-regulatory resource, helping people feel less lonely, more socially connected, and motivated to engage in future social interactions and creative endeavors, while also enriching their perspective through historical nostalgia that looks to shared cultural memories.
The unique power of an American pope
Q: What might be the Pope's long-term goals for the church in the next decade?
The guest speculates on strategic aims, including shaping doctrine on AI, expanding influence in Africa and South America, and balancing Western and growing global church communities.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Apple News In Conversation

What is Apple News In Conversation about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show features in-depth interviews with journalists, authors, and researchers exploring stories that shape public discourse, from voting rights and housing policy to media dynamics and tech culture. Episodes frequently center on power, policy, and societal change, with guests offering historical context, frontline reporting, and critical analysis. Notable strengths include rigorous, long-form conversations that connect current events to broader trends, and a focus on under-discussed angles in politics, technology, and culture. Fans typically value thoughtful questioning, well-sourced context, and a clear view of how complex issues unfold over time. A standout trait is the breadth of guests—from scholars and investigative reporters to au... more

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