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Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not?

In the latest season of his podcast, Michael takes on America’s newest form of legalized gambling, sports betting, and how it’s... more

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Recent Guests

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Episode: Preview: Into the Scatterbrained Minds of Team Revisionist History
Dr. Anne Fischel
Associate Professor at the Harvard Medical School and family therapist.
Harvard Medical School
Episode: The Harms of Eating Alone: An International Day of Happiness Special from The Happiness Lab
Jan-Emmanuel De Neve
Professor of Economics and Behavioral Science at the University of Oxford and Editor of the World Happiness Report.
University of Oxford
Episode: The Harms of Eating Alone: An International Day of Happiness Special from The Happiness Lab
Richard Blumenthal
Democratic US Senator from Connecticut
Episode: Sen. Richard Blumenthal on the SAFE Bet Act
Natasha Schull
Associate Professor in the Department of Media, Culture, and Communication at NYU
New York University
Episode: Natasha Schüll on the Antisocial Lure of Gambling
Charlie Lewis
Journalist for the Australian news site Crikey
Crikey
Episode: Episode 9: Framing the Gambler
Patrick Radden Keefe
Author of Empire of Pain, the story of the Sackler family in Purdue Pharma
Episode: Episode 9: Framing the Gambler
Larry Nance Jr.
Professional basketball player
Atlanta Hawks
Episode: Episode 8: The Integrity Landscape
Matthew Holt
Integrity monitor expert
US Integrity
Episode: Episode 8: The Integrity Landscape

Host

Michael Lewis
Renowned journalist and bestselling author, exploring themes of trust and ethics in modern society, particularly around gambling and sports.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 12.9k ratings
  • Can’t Listen to This

    The interviews and narration seem really interesting but the music is way too loud and distracting.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    msn2008
    United States14 days ago
  • Great Content

    I wish everyone had the curiosity, integrity and meticulous attention to detail that ML has. I always am interested in what he has to say.

    John Oliver stole your thunder!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    vern mihill
    United States2 months ago
  • Hit or miss

    This show has amazing seasons with incredible content, especially some of the early seasons. Then there are episodes like the Blumenthal episode about gambling law that will put you to sleep.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Kturnmart
    United States2 months ago
  • Can’t stop listening!

    ….Ne-Vad-Uh

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hairdoooo
    United States3 months ago
  • Deserves a Pulitzer

    In a world where it’s actually getting more difficult to find the signal amidst the noise for an educated society.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jdlenard
    United States3 months ago

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Many praise the compelling discussions regarding sports gambling and societal impacts, with several noting the importance of such dialogues.
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Dr. Laurie Santos on Group Psychology, the Teen Brain, and Happiness
Q: What do we do to dissuade young men from jumping into sports gambling if we're doing a podcast on sports gambling?
We should motivate teens by appealing to their sense of respect and agency, helping them recognize how sports betting companies target them.
Natasha Schüll on the Antisocial Lure of Gambling
Q: Do you think it's a bad idea to introduce my 17 year old to sports gambling?
Natasha suggests that studying gambling ecology through personal experiences can provide valuable insights rather than an outright ban.
Natasha Schüll on the Antisocial Lure of Gambling
Q: What does the casino do to shape the experience and shape people's behavior around the slot machines?
The design utilizes curved structures and sensory elements to keep players engaged without decision-making stress.
Natasha Schüll on the Antisocial Lure of Gambling
Q: How did you get interested in this in the first place?
Natasha describes her initial curiosity sparked by a layover in Vegas and her decision to study gambling as part of her anthropology major.
Michael Lewis on the Prof G Pod
Q: Walk us through the state of play of this experience and where you think we're headed?
The state of sports betting has changed dramatically since its legalization in 2018, with 39 states allowing it and a significant share of the population gaining access. However, there are rising social costs associated with this trend, including increased bankruptcies and gambling addiction, particularly among young men.

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What is Against the Rules about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Exploring themes of trust, fairness, and social dynamics in American culture, this podcast covers a range of relevant topics such as sports betting, gambling addiction, and the psychological implications of fandom. It features in-depth discussions around notable societal issues and personal stories, showcasing how evolving cultural landscapes affect individual behaviors and community interactions. With a focus on the consequences of legalized gambling, the narrative interweaves personal anecdotes and expert insights, creating a compelling dialogue about trust and its erosion in contemporary society. Unique in its exploration of both personal and societal stakes, the series likely resonates with listeners interested in psychology, business e... more

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2. Dr. Anne Fischel
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4. Richard Blumenthal
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6. Charlie Lewis
7. Patrick Radden Keefe
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