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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries
Sam Bankman-Fried
Sports Betting
Sports Gambling
2008 Financial Crisis
FTX
Gambling Addiction
The Big Short
Wall Street
Cryptocurrency
Effective Altruism
Pushkin Industries
Adult Entertainment
Reserve Clause
Pornography
Giving Tuesday
Jesse Owens
Mental Health
Public Health
Subprime Mortgages
Political Dynamics

Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not?

Get your copy of The Big Short audiobook, narrated by Michael Lewis, on Audible, Spotify, Apple Books, pushkin.fm/bigshort or w... more

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Bruce Rastetter
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Paolo Frans
Member of Frans brothers; Brazilian ag investor involved with Summit projects
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Corey Melby
Agriculture consultant in Brazil; fixer on the ground for the team
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Episode: Welcome to Carbon Cowboys | From Drilled
Terry Branstad
Former Governor of Iowa, later U.S. ambassador to China
U.S. Government/State of Iowa
Episode: Welcome to Carbon Cowboys | From Drilled
Mariana van Zeller
Journalist and host of Trafficked and The Hidden Third
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Episode: From Slate Money: “The Business of Black Markets”
Maya Shankar
Author and host of the podcast A Slight Change of Plans.
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Episode: Live: Michael Lewis and Maya Shankar on "The Other Side of Change"
Curt Flood
Major League Baseball player who challenged the Reserve Clause
Episode: Introducing Business History: The Man Who Sued Major League Baseball
Marvin Miller
Head of the Players Union during Curt Flood's lawsuit
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Episode: Introducing Business History: The Man Who Sued Major League Baseball

Hosts

Michael Lewis
Host and co-creator known for guiding discussions on the Big Short legacy and the financial crisis.
Lidia Jean Kott
Co-host and producer, contributes historical context and investigative perspective.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 13.1k ratings
  • Insane

    A podcast about learning lessons from the past that then …..platform’s Steve Bannon with no pushback?!?!!? Are you kidding?!?!? It’s one thing to let Bannon speak, but to say nothing about all the lies he spouts- hmmm, I wonder how we ever got here.

    Also, this podcast has the most ads to content of any I’ve ever listened to. Congrats on the $, but that was so annoying.

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    mrclaytonx
    United Statesa month ago
  • NEVER FORGET

    The big lesson from the Big Short is that we have to hold corporations and CEOs accountable, both financially and criminally. The lack of consequences for gaming the system allows this behavior to continue.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BruinWriter78
    United Statesa month ago
  • Against the Rules

    I would give this 5 stars because I love Michael Lewis and really enjoy his deep and provocative takes on all kinds of subjects and his facility in explaining things clearly; however, l do not enjoy Lydia Jean Kott’s voice, I feel slightly uncomfortable with the interaction between Michael and Lydia and there are so many commercials!

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    1
    Drmuehl
    United States2 months ago
  • Intrusive 6YR BABY VOICE - Kills any enjoyment of the content

    GET RID of the 6 YO “HOST” - She is terrible and ruins the ability to get into the content. Terrible hiring decision. She sounds like a dumbbell.

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    1
    SayingAny
    United States5 months ago
  • I REMEMBER 2008

    My husband owned 20 acres of lakeside property. We decided to subdivide and sell building lots. The investor saw a goldmine. We signed papers and then the end of the world came. For him anyway. We were already paid!!Nobody had money to purchase land, real estate collapsed. It took him 10 years, at least, to begin to recoup his investment. So, I am enjoying listening. I did see the movie and loved it. I could only give 4 stars because the girl setting up the episodes sounds like a five year old.... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Freds4Ever
    United States6 months ago

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Listeners appreciate rigorous financial history told through conversations with insiders.
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#214
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Live with Nicolle Wallace
Q: What should we learn from the financial crisis?
We missed the opportunity to internalize the lessons of the last crisis, making us vulnerable to future ones.
Live with Nicolle Wallace
Q: What is it like to relive this story?
It's a chance to revisit the events and characters, reflecting on how the consequences of the financial crisis remain relevant today.
Michael Burry Speaks
Q: What triggers a debt crisis in this country?
Predicting this stuff is difficult because countries are powerful and can achieve a lot, but the US has a significant debt and interest payments that are concerning.
Michael Burry Speaks
Q: So let's talk about this. Explain to me, you have this very small operation with just a handful of investors. What are the filing requirements?
They get to see US securities traded in the US that are stocks, they get to see stocks, and they get an incredibly bastardized version of options.
How the Financial Crisis Broke Wall Street
Q: What lessons do you think we should have learned from the financial crisis that maybe we didn't?
The main lesson is to worry about short-term funding and the risks associated with runnable debt.

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This program examines the legacy of the 2008 financial crisis through in-depth conversations with reporters, economists, historians, and high-profile figures connected to The Big Short. Episodes blend historical analysis of the crisis with contemporary market implications, featuring interviews with filmmakers, investors, and policymakers to unpack how subprime lending, regulation, and Wall Street culture shaped today's economy. A notable throughline is Michael Lewis's storytelling knack—pulling together real-world actors, data, and narrative to illuminate complex financial dynamics for a broad audience. The format often centers on how past events inform present financial behavior, policy, and public understanding, making it a compelling res... more

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5. Terry Branstad
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