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Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Zack and Josie
Swinging Lifestyle
Relationships
Communication
Bliss Cruise
Communication In Relationships
Swinging
Attraction
Intimacy
Swinger Lifestyle
Boundaries
Trust
Stis
Consent
Sexual Exploration
Jealousy
Bisexuality
Newbies
Vagina
Comfort
Age

Two Plus Two is a space for the conversations most couples aren’t having… but probably should be. Zack and Josie explore connection, intimacy, and relationships through honest, vulnerable discussions. Through their own reflections and conversations with their guests, they inspire listeners to strengthen their relationships and discover new perspectives on communication, trust, and fulfillment—embr... more

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes81Founded2 years ago
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Latest Episodes

What happens when one partner is ready to play and the other needs a little more time? Zack and Josie welcome Genie and Dr. G back for their third episode together to explore non-reciprocal play (NRP), an approach that challenges one of the lifestyle... more

What happens when you finally sit down with your adult children and talk openly about swinging…and sex? Zack and Josie invited their daughters into a conversation they’d never had before, answering their questions, asking a few of their own, and tack... more

Do women really want sex as much as men? Or have men and women been taught to think about sex so differently that we never really question the assumptions behind that question?

Zack and Josie take a surprisingly deep dive into the gender-specific me... more

What happens when one partner wants to explore the lifestyle and the other is a “hell no!”? In this entertaining and candid conversation, Zack and Josie are joined by Genie and Dr. G to explore a question that hits close to home for many couples: How... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. G
Partner of Genie; expert guest featured for discussion on the lifestyle
Speaker/coach in lifestyle community
Episode: Ep 78: How to Get Your Wife Into Swinging (Without Getting Divorced)

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Josie
Zack

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 256 ratings
  • Amaze balls!

    Where have you to been my whole life? I love the content and the effort put in to each show. I have learned some things I never knew about the LS plus you two are funny. Keep up the great work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Uraveragewhiteguy
    United Statesa month ago
  • Guests

    We are curious how you vet your guests. Do better

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    DietCoke9
    United States3 months ago
  • Not So Much

    I’ve listened to all episodes at this point and the dynamic had definitely shifted. I don’t really like how “judgy” the hosts are. I can imagine being at an event with them and wanting to keep my distance.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    someone with a nickname
    United States4 months ago
  • GREAT

    Love you guys! To all the people missing Brad and Brittany, you can still listen to both couples, just on different podcasts. No reason to to be critical. Just different styles and both couples bring great information to the LS.

    Brad and Brittany sexy swinging vampires podcast. I believe there are 3 episodes out now. Give them a listen and keep supporting both couples.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Easygo4
    United States6 months ago
  • YUK!

    I liked Brad & Brittany. The new couple leaves me cold. The chemistry the four of you had with B&B was wonderful. You guys are great but the new couple is a dud. Find a new couple please or better yet - bring back Brad and Brittany.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Leathersword
    United States6 months ago

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A few reviews criticize the hosts as judgmental or question guest selection; one listener also reported low audio volume in an early episode.
Some longtime listeners say the format and cast changes have reduced the chemistry and entertainment they valued in earlier episodes.
Listeners value candid, practical conversations about the lifestyle, consent, and relationship dynamics, with stories that can help couples start their own discussions.
Many appreciate the humor, open communication, and varied perspectives, especially when guest couples create an easy conversational flow.

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Ep 81: Non-Reciprocal Play: Does Everything Have to Be Equal?
Q: What can a man do to get Genie's attention without pursuing her too aggressively?
Genie recommends beginning with eye contact, smiling, and flirtation, then giving her space to initiate if interested. She emphasizes asking before touching and respecting the limits of consent.
Ep 81: Non-Reciprocal Play: Does Everything Have to Be Equal?
Q: What is non-reciprocal play?
Dr. G describes it as play that does not need to be equal in activity or intensity. The group communicates beforehand about what each person wants and how everyone can feel included and satisfied.
Ep 80: We Told Our Kids We’re Swingers… and They Had Questions
Q: How do you choose partners, and have you ever been disappointed after deciding to explore with a couple?
Zack says both partners need to feel attraction, then they privately communicate their interest using bracelets during a date. Conversation can change their interest, and they may end an encounter if the situation becomes uncomfortable or boundaries are not respected.
Ep 80: We Told Our Kids We’re Swingers… and They Had Questions
Q: What is it about other people that makes swinging more enticing, and what is appealing about getting dressed up for someone outside the marriage?
Josie says novelty and new sexual energy can add excitement within a secure marriage, while dressing up and receiving attention can help her feel desirable. The couple also values shared experiences that they can enjoy and discuss together.
Ep 78: How to Get Your Wife Into Swinging (Without Getting Divorced)
Q: What advice would you give to someone trying to start this conversation with their spouse?
Lead with openness rather than pressure, invite your partner to join the journey, provide time for internal processing, and avoid forcing a decision—treat it as a shared exploration rather than a sales pitch.

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What is This Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Candid conversations about swinging and consensual non-monogamy, with a focus on how couples navigate desire, trust, communication, consent, and boundaries. Josie and Zack share their own experiences and regularly invite couples and lifestyle community members to discuss their relationship journeys, events, and practical approaches to intimacy. Topics range from introducing a partner to the lifestyle and handling jealousy or rejection to party etiquette, sexual health, family disclosure, and community-building. The format combines personal stories, listener questions, and advice grounded in lived experience, with frank sexual discussion and an emphasis on mutual comfort and clear communication. Guests bring varied perspectives, including lo... more

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