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TRM Talks

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Every other week, TRM’s Global Head of Policy, Ari Redbord, sits down with business leaders, policy makers, and investigators from across the globe to talk about the key crypto policy, regulatory and enforcement issues of the day. Subscribe to our channel for the latest developments from the world of blockchain and cryptocurrency. About TRM Labs TRM provides blockchain intelligence to help financi... more

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Juan Zarate joined the US Treasury just three weeks before September 11, 2001, and helped build the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI), transforming Treasury into a cornerstone of American national security. He later chronicled that... more

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Recent Guests

Juan Zarate
Former Assistant Secretary at Treasury, godfather of Financial Intelligence
K2 Integrity / Consilience (as discussed)
Episode: EP. 116 | Treasury’s War: Then and Now — Economic Statecraft in the Age of Technology with Juan Zarate
Vatsa Narasimha
CEO of ComplyAdvantage
ComplyAdvantage
Episode: EP. 115 | Criminals Don't Have Compliance Officers: The AI Arms Race in AML with ComplyAdvantage’s Vatsa Narasimha
Jessi Brooks
Former prosecutor turned crypto policy leader, co-host of DEX in the City
Ribbit, Unchained Media collaborator
Episode: EP. 114 | The Women Rewriting Crypto's Rulebook with DEX in the City
Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos
Chief legal officer with extensive experience representing CFTC-registered entities
Unchained/Legal Markt
Episode: EP. 114 | The Women Rewriting Crypto's Rulebook with DEX in the City
Vy Lee
Former SEC official, crypto regulatory advocate and DeFi translator
Vita/TRM
Episode: EP. 114 | The Women Rewriting Crypto's Rulebook with DEX in the City
Brett Falk
Professor, head of the Crypto and Society Lab at the University of Pennsylvania
University of Pennsylvania
Episode: EP. 113 | Quantum, Hacks, and Privacy: Inside Blockchain Security with Penn's Brett Falk
Brynly Llyr
Deputy Commissioner for Digital Assets at California DFPI
California Department of Financial Protection and Innovation
Episode: EP. 112 | The Golden State of Crypto: Regulating Digital Assets with Brynly Llyr, California DFPI
Sophie Bowler
Chief Risk and Compliance Officer at Zodia Custody
Zodia Custody
Episode: EP. 111 | Compliance Built In, Not Bolted On: Inside Zodia Custody's Institutional Playbook with Sophie Bowler
Catherine Gu
Head of Product for Digital Assets at the Solana Foundation
Solana Foundation
Episode: EP. 110 | The Decentralization of Money: Building the Internet Capital Market on Solana with Catherine Gu

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Ari Redbord
Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs; Host of long-running policy-focused discussions on crypto regulation, enforcement, and industry strategy

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 41 ratings
  • Excellent Podcast

    If you’re interested in Blockchain or Cryptocurrency investigations this is a must have podcast! Superb!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Valbonne
    Spaina year ago
  • I learn something new and interesting every episode

    This podcast is great if you are at all involved in the crypto space, particularly if you’re interested in a regulatory or law enforcement’s perspective. I learn something new and interesting every episode.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    allisonmetzger
    United States2 years ago
  • Must listen

    Great info — must listen for anyone operating in the crypto ecosystem

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MGK5
    United States3 years ago

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Great for understanding how policy translates into real-world crypto investigations and compliance.
Supports learning for those operating in crypto ecosystems and governance-minded audiences.
Insightful and practical for anyone involved in the crypto space, especially on regulatory or enforcement perspectives.

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EP. 116 | Treasury’s War: Then and Now — Economic Statecraft in the Age of Technology with Juan Zarate
Q: What does the next chapter of financial intelligence look like with technology like AI and federated learning?
The guest envisions strategic suasion that aligns private capital with national security goals without co-opting the private sector, using federated machine learning to share insights and manage risk while preserving data privacy and sovereignty.
EP. 116 | Treasury’s War: Then and Now — Economic Statecraft in the Age of Technology with Juan Zarate
Q: What were the defining moments in building Treasury's modern security architecture after 9/11?
He explains the three episodes: post-9/11 strategic focus and sanctions, the reconceptualization of Treasury's role during and after DHS creation, and the establishment of an intelligence and analysis function plus law enforcement capacity within Treasury, culminating in the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence and broader economic statecraft.
EP. 116 | Treasury’s War: Then and Now — Economic Statecraft in the Age of Technology with Juan Zarate
Q: How did you get interested in the intersection of money laundering and national security, and what shaped your early career?
Zarate describes growing up with immigrant parents and a passion for national security, which led him from a DOJ role to Treasury, where 9/11 catalyzed a proactive, enduring emphasis on using financial tools to undermine terrorist financing.
EP. 113 | Quantum, Hacks, and Privacy: Inside Blockchain Security with Penn's Brett Falk
Q: How do you see zero-knowledge proofs fitting into compliant privacy in finance?
ZK proofs can allow verification of credentials and compliance without exposing underlying data, enabling safer data-sharing and privacy-preserving KYC/credential use while maintaining regulatory requirements.
EP. 113 | Quantum, Hacks, and Privacy: Inside Blockchain Security with Penn's Brett Falk
Q: What does it mean for a chain to go post-quantum, and what would need to happen for Bitcoin specifically?
Upgrading to post-quantum signatures requires both a change to cryptographic schemes and a user-wide transition where all users move to new wallets, a process complicated for Bitcoin by its decentralized, leaderless development culture and the need to preserve value and trust in the system.

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What is TRM Talks about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A high-signal show at the intersection of crypto policy, regulation, and financial crime, featuring interviews with policymakers, investigators, and industry leaders. Episodes consistently explore how law, technology, and enforcement collide in crypto—from AML and regulatory frameworks to institutional adoption, privacy, and AI-assisted compliance. Notable throughlines include collaboration between public and private sectors, practical casework in crypto investigations, and the evolving balance between innovation and risk management. The format tends to blend career-path storytelling with concrete policy insights, offering listeners a clear view of how regulatory and enforcement trends shape the digital assets landscape. A standout aspect i... more

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2. Vatsa Narasimha
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4. Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos
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