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TRM Talks

TRM Labs
Cryptocurrency
Financial Crime
Digital Assets
Stablecoins
Compliance
Blockchain Technology
Cryptocurrency Regulation
Cybersecurity
Blockchain Intelligence
North Korea
Financial Inclusion
Standard Chartered
SEC
Artificial Intelligence
CFTC
Pig Butchering Scams
Illicit Finance
Financial Regulation
Circle
Crypto Scams

Every other week, TRM’s Global Head of Policy, Ari Redbord, sits down with business leaders, policy makers, and investigators from across the globe to talk about the key crypto policy, regulatory and enforcement issues of the day. Subscribe to our channel for the latest developments from the world of blockchain and cryptocurrency. About TRM Labs TRM provides blockchain intelligence to help financi... more

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If a sufficiently powerful quantum computer came online tomorrow, every token on every blockchain would be a target — Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana all share signature schemes that pre-date the post-quantum era. The math has been clear since the 1990s. W... more

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Brynly Llyr has deep roots in fintech and blockchain — in-house at eBay, PayPal, and Ripple, where she served as one of the first general counsels in crypto, then founding team at Celo, then Head of Blockchain and Digital Assets at the World Economic... more

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Behind every laundered transaction is a real victim, a real crime, and a real reason to do this work well. That conviction has shaped Sophie Bowler's entire career — from her first job working on the EU's Fourth Anti-Money Laundering Directive as an ... more

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Catherine Gu has always been at the center of the shift toward the decentralization of money, a transformation that was once theoretical but is now actively reshaping global financial markets through stablecoins and on-chain infrastructure.

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Recent Guests

Brynly Llyr
Deputy Commissioner for Digital Assets at California DFPI
California Department of Financial Protection and Innovation
Episode: EP. 112 | The Golden State of Crypto: Regulating Digital Assets with Brynly Llyr, California DFPI
Sophie Bowler
Chief Risk and Compliance Officer at Zodia Custody
Zodia Custody
Episode: EP. 111 | Compliance Built In, Not Bolted On: Inside Zodia Custody's Institutional Playbook with Sophie Bowler
Catherine Gu
Head of Product for Digital Assets at the Solana Foundation
Solana Foundation
Episode: EP. 110 | The Decentralization of Money: Building the Internet Capital Market on Solana with Catherine Gu
Shaul Kfir
Co-founder of Digital Asset and Canton Network
Digital Asset, Canton Network
Episode: EP. 109 | Building Institutional Rails On-chain — A Conversation with Canton Co-Founder Shaul Kfir
Anoop Dattani
Detective, West Midlands Regional Organized Crime Unit
West Midlands Police
Episode: EP. 108 | Policing in the Age of Technology with Det. Anoop “Snoop” Dattani, West Midlands Police
Chee Kin Lam
Head of Legal and Compliance, DBS Bank
DBS Bank
Episode: EP. 107 | Building a Bank with a Heart: Inside DBS’s Approach to Crypto, Compliance, and AI with Chee Kin Lam
Jackie Crenshaw
Manager of Breast Imaging at a large hospital in Connecticut and a scam survivor sharing her story.
Episode: EP. 105 | Tracing a Romance Scam: A Survivor’s Story and the Investigation Behind It
Matt Hogan
Detective from the Connecticut State Police with expertise in cryptocurrency investigations.
Connecticut State Police
Episode: EP. 105 | Tracing a Romance Scam: A Survivor’s Story and the Investigation Behind It
Kah Kit Yip
Head of blockchain and digital assets at UOB.
UOB
Episode: EP. 104 | Pioneering Payments: Turning Sandboxes into Infrastructure with UOB’s Kah Kit

Host

Ari Redbord
Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs; Host of long-running policy-focused discussions on crypto regulation, enforcement, and industry strategy

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 41 ratings
  • Excellent Podcast

    If you’re interested in Blockchain or Cryptocurrency investigations this is a must have podcast! Superb!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Valbonne
    Spaina year ago
  • I learn something new and interesting every episode

    This podcast is great if you are at all involved in the crypto space, particularly if you’re interested in a regulatory or law enforcement’s perspective. I learn something new and interesting every episode.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    allisonmetzger
    United States2 years ago
  • Must listen

    Great info — must listen for anyone operating in the crypto ecosystem

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MGK5
    United States2 years ago

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Great for understanding how policy translates into real-world crypto investigations and compliance.
Supports learning for those operating in crypto ecosystems and governance-minded audiences.
Insightful and practical for anyone involved in the crypto space, especially on regulatory or enforcement perspectives.

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EP. 112 | The Golden State of Crypto: Regulating Digital Assets with Brynly Llyr, California DFPI
Q: How does California plan to balance enforcement with fostering a healthy, innovative crypto ecosystem?
By prioritizing compliance and fair licensing, using enforcement as a last resort for significant violations, and ensuring licensing creates a level playing field so legitimate, compliant companies can compete while scams are deterred.
EP. 112 | The Golden State of Crypto: Regulating Digital Assets with Brynly Llyr, California DFPI
Q: Tell me about the Digital Financial Assets Law and what it means for crypto businesses in California.
The Digital Financial Assets Law was signed in 2023 and sets up a licensing framework to regulate crypto businesses in California, with staggered implementation and ongoing oversight to ensure compliance while enabling responsible innovation.
EP. 111 | Compliance Built In, Not Bolted On: Inside Zodia Custody's Institutional Playbook with Sophie Bowler
Q: What types of things would you prioritize when building a compliance program today in crypto?
Key priorities include blockchain analytics as a live operating manual, building the right team, and embedding compliance controls into product development and technology from the start to sustain rapid innovation and effective risk management.
EP. 111 | Compliance Built In, Not Bolted On: Inside Zodia Custody's Institutional Playbook with Sophie Bowler
Q: Talk me through the journey to Zodia, what precipitated that move?
She explains moving from EY in 2020 as crypto firms came under regulatory scope, recognizing the need for financial crime controls and licensing, and choosing Zodia to combine institutional DNA with crypto-native dynamics.
EP. 111 | Compliance Built In, Not Bolted On: Inside Zodia Custody's Institutional Playbook with Sophie Bowler
Q: Tell me, how did you get started? Tell me a little bit about your journey.
Bowler describes a career rooted in financial crime compliance, starting with an internship in the European Parliament to work on organized crime legislation, moving through AML directives, and ultimately finding a dedicated path in digital assets where she could apply traditional finance rigor to crypto.

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What is TRM Talks about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A high-signal show at the intersection of crypto policy, regulation, and financial crime, featuring interviews with policymakers, investigators, and industry leaders. Episodes consistently explore how law, technology, and enforcement collide in crypto—from AML and regulatory frameworks to institutional adoption, privacy, and AI-assisted compliance. Notable throughlines include collaboration between public and private sectors, practical casework in crypto investigations, and the evolving balance between innovation and risk management. The format tends to blend career-path storytelling with concrete policy insights, offering listeners a clear view of how regulatory and enforcement trends shape the digital assets landscape. A standout aspect i... more

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