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Trade Talks: Insights for a Changing World | By ICC Belgium & Deloitte

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Customs Origin

Customs Valuation

Rules Of Origin

Tariffs

Compliance Programs

Sustainability

Counterfeiting

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EU Customs Data Hub

China

Transfer Pricing

Future Scenarios

Non-Preferential Origin

Preferential Origin

Trade Talks is the podcast where we look at international trade from every angle —challenges, opportunities, and the latest trends.Brought to you by ICC Belgium & Deloitte.

🎙️ In these episodes, we explore key themes in global trade together with leading voices from business and policy:

From Barriers to Opportunitieswith FEB, Deloitte, Steelforce Belgium & Kim's Chocolates

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Publishes	Monthly	Episodes	9	Founded	10 months ago
Number of Listeners		Categories	BusinessEntrepreneurship

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Trade Unpacked episode 9 | Rules of Origin: From Compliance to Strategic Advantage

Do you know where your products really come from? And more importantly, does it cost you money if you don't?

In this episode of Trade Unpacked, Katrien Nuyts from Deloitte sits down with Mayra Souza from International Flavors & Fragrances (IFF), a g... more

16 Jun 2026 • 39 min

Trade unpacked episode 8 | How to build a resilient trade strategy in changing times

Tariffs shifting weekly. Geopolitical rules torn up overnight. A global trading system that looks different every Monday morning.

So how do you build a trade strategy when the ground keeps moving?

In this episode of Trade Unpacked, Julie Deré sits ... more

22 May 2026 • 39 min

Trade unpacked episode 7 | Classification, Origin, Value: The Customs Triangle and the Role of Transfer Pricing

In this episode, we explore why customs is far more than a technical or administrative function—it’s a strategic pillar at the core of international trade, directly impacting cost, compliance, and risk.

We break down the three fundamental elements o... more

15 Apr 2026 • 43 min

Trade unpacked episode 6 | Gen Z’s Take on Global Trade

In this episode of Trade Unpacked, we explore Gen Z’s take on global trade. What does international trade mean to them? How do they see its role in economic growth, sustainability and social responsibility? And what challenges do they believe will de... more

16 Feb 2026 • 25 min

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Maira Souza

Global trade leader with extensive experience in preferential origin policy development

IFF

Episode: Trade Unpacked episode 9 | Rules of Origin: From Compliance to Strategic Advantage

Jens de Prins

Professional with regulatory experience in origin rules

Deloitte

Episode: Trade Unpacked episode 9 | Rules of Origin: From Compliance to Strategic Advantage

Joachim De Vos

Professor of Scenario Planning, Ghent University; founder of Tomorrowlab

Ghent University; Tomorrowlab

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 8 | How to build a resilient trade strategy in changing times

Isaline Gauphin

Trade Team at Deloitte

Deloitte

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 8 | How to build a resilient trade strategy in changing times

Frauke de Temmerman

Trade Team at Deloitte

Deloitte

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 8 | How to build a resilient trade strategy in changing times

Philippe Heeren

Partner at Reed Smith; leads Customs and International Trade Practice

Reed Smith

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 7 | Classification, Origin, Value: The Customs Triangle and the Role of Transfer Pricing

Nico Bogaerts

Global Customs and Compliance Lead at Pfizer

Pfizer

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 7 | Classification, Origin, Value: The Customs Triangle and the Role of Transfer Pricing

Paul Marneffe

Director Transfer Pricing at Deloitte Brussels

Deloitte

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 7 | Classification, Origin, Value: The Customs Triangle and the Role of Transfer Pricing

Jede Timpont

Gen Z trade professional with background in law

Trade consultant

Episode: Trade unpacked episode 6 | Gen Z’s Take on Global Trade

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Julie Deré

Host with recurring involvement in trade talks and governance discussions.

Frauke Detemmerman

Host and trade strategist with Deloitte; frequently covers governance and risk in trade strategy.

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Trade unpacked episode 5 | e-commerce and counterfeit

Q: What will the de minimis abolition and the 3 euro duty mean for platforms and marketplaces in terms of responsibility and compliance?

Platforms will face greater responsibility under a amended framework, including deemed importer status and new legislation, while the 3 euro duty mainly affects enforcement capacity rather to direct platform responsibility.

Trade unpacked episode 5 | e-commerce and counterfeit

Q: From a business perspective, are EU customs authorities well equipped to handle the volume of e-commerce parcels, or is there a gap between ambition and reality?

There is a gap between ambition and operational reality due to the sheer volume and the complexity of controls, despite the goal of 100% controls; more capabilities are needed.

Trade Unpacked episode 9 | Rules of Origin: From Compliance to Strategic Advantage

Q: How can private sector influence origin rule design in trade agreements?

Trade associations advocate for priorities, present processing rules and thresholds, and engage in committees to balance offensive and defensive interests. Companies can voice concerns through federations to shape rules that are more workable across markets.

Trade Unpacked episode 9 | Rules of Origin: From Compliance to Strategic Advantage

Q: What are the key considerations when a company claims preferential origin?

Companies must decide between importer-based and exporter-based systems, ensure proof like LTSDs (Long-Term Supplier Declarations) is accurate, and understand that the importer bears liability for claims under preferential origin. Self-certification and registered exporter schemes shift some responsibility to companies, necessitating robust data governance and traceability.

Trade Unpacked episode 9 | Rules of Origin: From Compliance to Strategic Advantage

Q: Can you briefly remind listeners what origin means and the two systems for determining it?

Origin refers to where a product is deemed to originate for the purposes of preferential trade agreements and regulatory measures. There are two systems: preferential origin, which determines eligibility for trade agreement benefits, and non-preferential origin, which applies to other regulations and measures. Companies must manage both systems in parallel.

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A practical, policy-forward show that examines international trade from multiple angles, with a steady roster of practitioners, policymakers, and academics exploring barriers, opportunities, and the evolving regulatory landscape. Episodes consistently cover rules of origin, customs classification and valuation, trade agreements, and the role of technology (AI, data, and platforms) in trade operations. The conversations balance concrete, actionable guidance for corporate teams—such as supply chain design, data quality, and ERP considerations—with broader strategic themes like sustainability incentives, e-commerce enforcement, and global governance. A standout aspect is the mix of industry practitioners (pharma, food & beverage, manufacturing... more

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