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This Can't Be That Hard

Annemie Tonken
Photography
Photography Business
Entrepreneurship
Client Experience
Marketing Strategies
Marketing
Work-Life Balance
Business Strategies
Sustainability
Pricing
Client Management
Family Photography
Business Growth
Social Media Marketing
Airtable
Business Strategy
Email Marketing
Pricing Strategies
Customer Service
Social Media

You love photography, but running a business? That's a different story. If you've ever thrown up your hands trying to figure it out yourself and said "This CAN'T be that hard!!!" you've come to the right place. Host Annemie Tonken's secret superpower is cutting through the confusion to give you actionable, step-by-step strategies and systems that will help you build a business that reflects your v... more

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The first episode I recorded with Lindsay Herkert back in February of 2025 has been one of my most popular episodes to date. Lindsay has a way of taking something as intimidating (and boring) as Google Ads and making it feel doable and even fun... wh... more

When I asked my friend Rebecca Hunnicutt to contribute to our Stories and Shorties series, I didn't give her any specific direction - she's an educator and long-time family, maternity, newborn, and school photographer in Portland, Oregon, so I knew s... more

Every photographer I know would love more referrals, but they're all looking for them in the same place: their past clients. Of course, past clients can be a wonderful source of referrals, but the timing isn't always right, and we don't want to ask t... more

90% of client confusion and problems - including low sales averages - can be traced back to things that happened (or perhaps didn't happen) much earlier in the process.

That's exactly what my guest this week unpacks. Ina Jalil is a pet photographer ... more

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Recent Guests

Lydia Fine
Family, senior, and newborn photographer; mentor and business coach for photographers
Apollo and Ivy Photography
Episode: 386 - Privacy Options for Clients with Lydia Fine
Lyndsay Hanna
Photographer, Lyndsay Hanna Photography
Lyndsay Hanna Photography
Episode: 384 - Busy Season Hack: Minimizing Time & Maximizing Profit with Lyndsay McNiff
Melody MacDonald
Photographer and communications educator who spent 21 years in 911 dispatch
OD MacPhoto
Episode: 382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Ali Leigh Koh
Minneapolis based wedding photographer and founder of Align Photo Co.
Align Photo Co.
Episode: 378 - The Nuts & Bolts of Building an Associate Team with Ali Leigh
Courtney Fanning
Copywriter and brand strategist
Big Picture Branding
Episode: 374 - The Four Types of Buyers with Courtney Fanning
Ashley Rose
Systems Over Stress founder; Airtable expert
Systems Over Stress
Episode: 368 - Airtable for Artists: Tech that Works With Your Brain with Ashley Rose
Naomi Boyer
Photographer and founder of Naomi Boyer Photography
Naomi Boyer Photography
Episode: 366 - Lower Prices, Higher Profits with Naomi Boyer
Jenn Chen
Family and newborn photographer in California
Self-employed photographer
Episode: 365 - The Low-Ticket Lead-In
Allison Maxwell
Photographer in central Arkansas focusing on playful portraits and partnerships
Self-employed photographer
Episode: 365 - The Low-Ticket Lead-In

Host

Annemie Tonken
Host of This Can't Be That Hard; guiding practical marketing strategies for photographers

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 202 ratings
  • Generous and invaluable advice

    I’ve learned so much from this podcast, if you were like me where you know you’re photos are good but the business side was falling flat on it’s face, defo hit play on this!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    McDucks79
    United Kingdom6 months ago
  • The Push I Needed

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    This Can’t Be That Hard is always packed with valuable, inspiring content. Annemie consistently brings on incredible guests, and I just finished the episode with Angelia Pompy - wow. The conversation around networking was so relatable (the “networking scaries” are real!) and also so motivating. I feel encouraged and ready to put myself out there. Highly recommend this podcast to any creative entrepreneur!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kate DeCoste
    United Statesa year ago
  • Relatable and inspiring

    Thanks for sharing some really useful tips and bite size information to start on some strategies. I’ve just booked into your “Business Plan Glow up” module!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Suzi_A
    Australia2 years ago
  • Best photography business podcast out there!

    I have been listening to TCBTH since the beginning. Practical, actionable episodes that always leave me with things to think about and steps to take to accomplish a new goal. I was thrilled to be invited as a guest for Episode 203 — The Art of Fine Art School Portraits with Lindsey Turner. Thank you Annemie for all you share to lift up other photographers.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kheric
    United States2 years ago
  • Finally!!

    Finally found a podcast about photography business that is relatable, up front, and easy to digest/implement. I'm just listening to as many as quickly as I can. It feels like listening to a friend who is actually interested in your success. And it's awesome to see her implement all the tools she's teaching on her own website and marketing. I would recommend this podcast for anyone who wants to make their photography business more manageable, profitable, and enjoyable.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CelesteL29
    United States2 years ago

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Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#177
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#141
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#204
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#211
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#150
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#242
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: What practical steps can photographers take immediately to improve their communication with clients?
Use a pausing technique to regulate your body, apply a simple tracking system for leads and responses, and craft templates that read differently for long-time clients versus new prospects to maintain humanity in automated messages.
382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: How do you handle objections or a no from a potential client?
View objections and no's as information to learn from, pause to regulate yourself, and respond from a place of clarity rather than urgency, using follow-ups that keep the door open and invite future conversations.
382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: What role does automation play in your outreach strategy?
Automation should remove repetition but preserve humanity; keep your brand visible and familiar through regular, thoughtful touchpoints, while ensuring emails and messages still feel personal and conversational.
382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: How should you tailor your communication with hot leads versus cold leads?
With hot leads you can be more familiar and direct, leaning on known connections and personal references, while with cold leads you should stay authentic and still personal by noting specific observations about why you reached out, ensuring your outreach doesn't feel robotic.
368 - Airtable for Artists: Tech that Works With Your Brain with Ashley Rose
Q: What makes Airtable different from a traditional spreadsheet like Google Sheets?
Airtable functions as a connected database, where multiple tables reference each other and build cohesive client profiles, enabling a centralized source of truth rather than siloed data across different apps.

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The show targets photographers who want pragmatic, repeatable systems to run a profitable, sustainable business. Episodes mix pricing strategies, marketing alignment, client experience, and operational automation, with a steady emphasis on actionable frameworks and real-world case studies. Guests range from copywriters and brand strategists to photographers who scaled with structured offerings, memberships, and scalable workflows. A notable throughline is making business decisions simpler and more humane, using clear CTAs, and staying true to personal values while growing profitability. The format often centers on hands-on tactics, from pricing and sales conversations to tech stacks and AI-assisted workflows, with host-led guidance and acti... more

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