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This Can't Be That Hard

Annemie Tonken
Photography
Photography Business
Entrepreneurship
Client Experience
Marketing Strategies
Marketing
Work-Life Balance
Business Strategies
Sustainability
Pricing
Client Management
Family Photography
Business Growth
Social Media Marketing
Airtable
Business Strategy
Email Marketing
Pricing Strategies
Customer Service
Social Media

You love photography, but running a business? That's a different story. If you've ever thrown up your hands trying to figure it out yourself and said "This CAN'T be that hard!!!" you've come to the right place. Host Annemie Tonken's secret superpower is cutting through the confusion to give you actionable, step-by-step strategies and systems that will help you build a business that reflects your v... more

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I'll admit it... SEO tools sometimes make my eyes glaze over. I was okay with Google Analytics for a while, but then it changed and I lost track of where anything lived. I suspect I'm not the only one.

So when I heard Melissa Arlena of Picture Perfe... more

The busy season can be a lot. Sessions start to blur together, the inbox never quite empties, and - for a lot of photographers - this is the time when photography starts to feel more like work than fun.

As normal as that feeling is, it's also someth... more

I've met Shaun Austin Gordon at several industry events over the years. He's a former wedding photographer and the founder/owner of KISS Books, which makes gorgeous professional albums. This past spring, we got to talking about the impact we have as ... more

The first episode I recorded with Lindsay Herkert back in February of 2025 has been one of my most popular episodes to date. Lindsay has a way of taking something as intimidating (and boring) as Google Ads and making it feel doable and even fun... wh... more

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Recent Guests

Bobbi Barbarich
Award-winning documentary wedding and family photographer who coaches photographers on finding and trusting their creative voice.
Episode: 392 - Exercising Your Interest Muscle with Bobbi Barbarich
Shaun Austin Gordon
Former wedding photographer and founder of KISS Books, a professional photo album company.
KISS Books
Episode: 391 - Lasting Impact Beyond the Photos with Shaun Austin Gordon
Lindsay Herkert
Family photographer in Austin, Texas, who uses SEO and Google Ads to grow her business.
Episode: 390 - Intent-Based Marketing On Google with Lindsay Herkert
Rebecca Hunnicutt
Photographer and educator in the photography space
Photographer and educator
Episode: 389 - 4 Small But Mighty Tips You Can Use Today with Rebecca Hunnicutt
Ina Jalil
Pet photographer based in Canberra, Australia; educator who coaches pet photographers
The Pet Photographer's Journal (guest host/ educator roles mentioned)
Episode: 387 - The Two Questions with Ina Jalil
Lydia Fine
Family, senior, and newborn photographer; mentor and business coach for photographers
Apollo and Ivy Photography
Episode: 386 - Privacy Options for Clients with Lydia Fine
Maddie Peschong
Branding photographer based in Sioux Falls, South Dakota; host of the Take It Personally podcast; creator of the Rebrand Group Coaching Program
Rebrand Group Coaching / Take It Personally podcast
Episode: 385 - Marketing Monday with Maddie Peschong
Lyndsay Hanna
Photographer, Lyndsay Hanna Photography
Lyndsay Hanna Photography
Episode: 384 - Busy Season Hack: Minimizing Time & Maximizing Profit with Lyndsay McNiff
Tiffany Crenshaw
Owner of Animal House Photography and Tiffany Crenshaw Education
Animal House Photography; Tiffany Crenshaw Education
Episode: 383 - Playing the Long Marketing Game with Tiffany Crenshaw

Host

Annemie Tonken
Host of This Can't Be That Hard; guiding practical marketing strategies for photographers

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 202 ratings
  • Generous and invaluable advice

    I’ve learned so much from this podcast, if you were like me where you know you’re photos are good but the business side was falling flat on it’s face, defo hit play on this!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    McDucks79
    United Kingdom7 months ago
  • The Push I Needed

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    This Can’t Be That Hard is always packed with valuable, inspiring content. Annemie consistently brings on incredible guests, and I just finished the episode with Angelia Pompy - wow. The conversation around networking was so relatable (the “networking scaries” are real!) and also so motivating. I feel encouraged and ready to put myself out there. Highly recommend this podcast to any creative entrepreneur!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kate DeCoste
    United Statesa year ago
  • Relatable and inspiring

    Thanks for sharing some really useful tips and bite size information to start on some strategies. I’ve just booked into your “Business Plan Glow up” module!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Suzi_A
    Australia2 years ago
  • Best photography business podcast out there!

    I have been listening to TCBTH since the beginning. Practical, actionable episodes that always leave me with things to think about and steps to take to accomplish a new goal. I was thrilled to be invited as a guest for Episode 203 — The Art of Fine Art School Portraits with Lindsey Turner. Thank you Annemie for all you share to lift up other photographers.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kheric
    United States2 years ago
  • Finally!!

    Finally found a podcast about photography business that is relatable, up front, and easy to digest/implement. I'm just listening to as many as quickly as I can. It feels like listening to a friend who is actually interested in your success. And it's awesome to see her implement all the tools she's teaching on her own website and marketing. I would recommend this podcast for anyone who wants to make their photography business more manageable, profitable, and enjoyable.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CelesteL29
    United States3 years ago

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391 - Lasting Impact Beyond the Photos with Shaun Austin Gordon
Q: What is an impact in your business that you may be missing out on?
He encourages photographers to think about how their work could keep serving clients after a session, such as using albums to help couples reconnect with their wedding memories and build an anniversary tradition.
391 - Lasting Impact Beyond the Photos with Shaun Austin Gordon
Q: What are ways that we can have more of an impact in what we do for a living?
Gordon suggests looking beyond the immediate deliverable to consider how a business can support clients and their relationships, while also defining success in personally meaningful terms.
382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: What practical steps can photographers take immediately to improve their communication with clients?
Use a pausing technique to regulate your body, apply a simple tracking system for leads and responses, and craft templates that read differently for long-time clients versus new prospects to maintain humanity in automated messages.
382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: How do you handle objections or a no from a potential client?
View objections and no's as information to learn from, pause to regulate yourself, and respond from a place of clarity rather than urgency, using follow-ups that keep the door open and invite future conversations.
382 - The BTS Marketing Challenge: Manage your Messaging with Melody MacDonald
Q: What role does automation play in your outreach strategy?
Automation should remove repetition but preserve humanity; keep your brand visible and familiar through regular, thoughtful touchpoints, while ensuring emails and messages still feel personal and conversational.

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The show targets photographers who want pragmatic, repeatable systems to run a profitable, sustainable business. Episodes mix pricing strategies, marketing alignment, client experience, and operational automation, with a steady emphasis on actionable frameworks and real-world case studies. Guests range from copywriters and brand strategists to photographers who scaled with structured offerings, memberships, and scalable workflows. A notable throughline is making business decisions simpler and more humane, using clear CTAs, and staying true to personal values while growing profitability. The format often centers on hands-on tactics, from pricing and sales conversations to tech stacks and AI-assisted workflows, with host-led guidance and acti... more

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2. Shaun Austin Gordon
3. Lindsay Herkert
4. Rebecca Hunnicutt
5. Ina Jalil
6. Lydia Fine
7. Maddie Peschong
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