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The World Unpacked is a weekly podcast where insiders, intellectuals, and iconoclasts dive deep into the most pressing global issues. In a time of violent convulsions and heady new possibilities, host Jon Bateman mixes it up with the thinkers making sense of what’s happening and the power brokers building what comes next. Tune in for lively, free-wheeling conversations with some of the world’s mos... more

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A provocative new book, Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, argues that Musk has pioneered a new form of capitalism that fuses technology with political power.  Elon Musk is one of the most influential figures of our era.  He remade the space, car, s... more

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Tom explains why Orbán lost, why his successor Peter Magyar isn’t the anti-Orbán that many assume, and why “electoral autocracies” around the world are less stable than they seem.

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Tino takes on the skeptics and makes an impassioned case for an “idea sector” independent of government and industry—even in the age of AI.

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President Trump was meant to fly to Beijing this week for major trade talks, but instead he’s staying home to manage the Iran War. It’s an apt metaphor for America’s decades-long failure to refocus on Asia and reckon with China’s rise. Does Trump hav... more

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Recent Guests

Quinn Slobodian
Co-author of Muskism, historian/academic
Author of Muskism
Episode: Elon Musk Is Reinventing Capitalism
Ben Tarnoff
Co-author of Muskism, writer/analyst
Author of Muskism
Episode: Elon Musk Is Reinventing Capitalism
Tom Carruthers
Democracy scholar with deep ties to Hungary
Independent scholar/academic
Episode: Why Orbán Lost and What Happens Next
Tino Cuellar
President of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Episode: Inside the Hidden World of Think Tanks
Ali Wine
Author of America's Great Power Opportunity and observer of U.S.-China relations
Independent analyst; author
Episode: What Trump Really Wants From China
Katrina Manson
Bloomberg reporter and author of Project Maven, A Marine Colonel, His Team, and The Dawn of AI Warfare
Bloomberg
Episode: Inside the Pentagon’s AI War Machine
Ona Hathaway
Expert on international law
Harvard Law School (assumed based on context)
Episode: Did Trump Kill International Law – Or Was It Already Dead?
Dan Dresner
Leading scholar of global politics and professor at the Fletcher School
Tufts University
Episode: Trump’s Two-Front Battle With Europe and Iran
Sarah Chayes
Author and corruption expert, known for her work on corruption in various nations.
Episode: Epstein’s America: How Modern Corruption Works

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Jon Bateman
Host of The World Unpacked

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4.6 out of 5 stars from 136 ratings
  • Carnegie Endowment

    Hi Apple Podcasts, I hope you have a good day. My name is David Zavala and I manage and operate a very good and a very successful Business called Sense Counseling LLC. We are filed in Texas. Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, I enjoy the podcasts because they give me a deeper understanding of the climate that we live in today and allows me as one Doctor among millions in the United States that will fly to move and live in Oxford or Cambridge as a new incoming Doctor that will complete a... more

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    United States4 months ago
  • Failsafe, dynamite yeah right

    Did the author watch the movie “Failsafe” before ripping it off?

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    J Clam
    United States5 months ago
  • Worthy of Your Time

    I remember the Jen days of the podcast, very fondly. The Laura days were also good. These halcyon days of talent were followed by a terrible and directionless period, which was just total off the rails. Stewart was a good host, who dragged the podcast from the Doug-abyss of having been a venue for connected academics and relatives to push books that nobody ever wanted to read. Stewart gave the podcast the serious reboot that it deserved. We were rewarded with Sophia, who has been excellent. ... more

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    RJG179
    United States7 months ago
  • I Love a Good Besch Sesch!

    I remember the Jen days of the podcast, very fondly. The Laura days were also good. These halcyon days of talent were followed by a terrible and directionless period, which was just total off the rails. Stewart was a good host, who dragged the podcast from the Doug abyss of being a venue for connected academics and relatives to sell books that nobody ever wanted to read, and he gave it the serious reboot that it deserved. Now, we are rewarded with Sophia, who is excellent. The podcast, helm... more

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    RJG179
    United States2 years ago
  • Stewart is Doing Great!

    UPDATE: I remember the Jen days of the podcast very fondly, then came the Laura days, which were also good, this was followed by a terrible period that was just off the rails. Now, Stewart seems to bringing this podcast back and increasing its value. He’s clearly a credible host and the reboot is going well, so far.

    Previous: I was particularly disappointed by the interview with the Koch-funded “restrainer” advocating repackaged isolationism, who was all but granted free rein by the host. I’... more

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Elon Musk Is Reinventing Capitalism
Q: What is Muskism, and how do you define it as a framework for understanding his influence?
Muskism is a framework that treats Musk not just as an entrepreneur but as an avatar for a broader political-economic system where sovereignty is packaged through technology infrastructures, tying state capacity to private platforms and compelling questions about governance, labor, and public policy.
Inside the Hidden World of Think Tanks
Q: How is AI changing the think tank landscape and the way knowledge is shared?
AI democratizes access to information, but raises questions about quality, attribution, and access; think tanks may need to adapt by curating models, maintaining human oversight, and exploring new formats to reach diverse audiences while preserving rigor.
Inside the Hidden World of Think Tanks
Q: How do you ensure independence when funding is involved?
We maintain a firewall between funders and research outcomes, prefer funding from organizations aligned with our broader mission, and resist money that would push us to publish pre-determined conclusions.
Inside the Hidden World of Think Tanks
Q: What is a think tank and why are you running one?
A think tank is an independent policy research institution aimed at bringing scholars together to analyze issues with a long-term, nonpartisan perspective, linking ideas to real-world decision making beyond pure government or private sector confines.
What Trump Really Wants From China
Q: What should a possible Trump–Xi meeting aim to accomplish?
Consolidate existing trade progress, avoid a full-blown trade war, and seek a framework of mutual vulnerability that can restrain actions in both economic and security domains without renouncing competition.

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What is The World Unpacked about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show presents deep-dive conversations with leading scholars, policymakers, and industry experts on geopolitics, international law, and global security. Episodes often center on U.S. foreign policy, great-power competition, the legal architecture of international affairs, and the human costs of conflict, with occasional forays into technology policy, corruption, and economic policy. A hallmark is rigorous, idea-driven analysis from guests who are widely regarded in think tanks, academia, or government, paired with a host known for pushing for nuanced, long-range perspectives. The format tends toward thorough, intellectually ambitious discussions that aim to illuminate how power, law, and technology shape global outcomes. Notable is the b... more

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