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The World Unpacked is a weekly podcast where insiders, intellectuals, and iconoclasts dive deep into the most pressing global issues. In a time of violent convulsions and heady new possibilities, host Jon Bateman mixes it up with the thinkers making sense of what’s happening and the power brokers building what comes next. Tune in for lively, free-wheeling conversations with some of the world’s mos... more

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The U.S. and Israel just fought a second war over Iran's nuclear program—and one of the world's leading nuclear experts says America lost. Iran's uranium stockpile sits fully intact in tunnels too deep to reach, and Tehran walked away with more lever... more

A U.S.-China war over Taiwan would be catastrophic for all sides and the world. Preventing such a war requires understanding how it might unfold—from start to finish—including worst-case scenarios.

How much warning would there be? Where might China ... more

The wars unleashed by October 7th have left the Middle East deeply fractured—Iran battered and defiant, Gaza destroyed, Israel militarized, the Gulf insecure and divided. And an even bigger disruption lies just ahead: the oil revenues that built the ... more

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Theo Baker is no ordinary college senior. His student newspaper articles brought down Stanford’s president. Now he’s written a book about the making of the young tech elite.

How to Rule the World: An Education in Power at Stanford University reveals... more

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Charles Hooper
Retired three-star general, former Defense Attaché and senior China policy official
U.S. Army; Office of the Secretary of Defense; Indo-Pacific Command
Episode: How a U.S.-China War Would Unfold
Marwan Muasher
Former foreign minister and deputy prime minister of Jordan
Former Jordanian government
Episode: The Real Middle East Crisis Hasn't Started Yet
Theo Baker
Author and Stanford student journalist; author of How to Rule the World
Stanford University
Episode: Is Silicon Valley Corrupting Stanford?
Sasha Prokopenko
Former Moscow insider, author of a book on Russia's power structure
Author; former advisor at the Russian Central Bank
Episode: Putin Is Losing His Grip on Russia
Javier Corrales
Professor at Amherst College, expert on Cuba
Amherst College
Episode: What to Know Before Trump Attacks Cuba
Nick Pickles
Chief Policy Officer at Tools for Humanity
Tools for Humanity
Episode: How Humans Take Back the Internet From AI Bots
Quinn Slobodian
Co-author of Muskism, historian/academic
Author of Muskism
Episode: Elon Musk Is Reinventing Capitalism
Ben Tarnoff
Co-author of Muskism, writer/analyst
Author of Muskism
Episode: Elon Musk Is Reinventing Capitalism
Tom Carruthers
Democracy scholar with deep ties to Hungary
Independent scholar/academic
Episode: Why Orbán Lost and What Happens Next

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Jon Bateman
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    Did the author watch the movie “Failsafe” before ripping it off?

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  • Worthy of Your Time

    I remember the Jen days of the podcast, very fondly. The Laura days were also good. These halcyon days of talent were followed by a terrible and directionless period, which was just total off the rails. Stewart was a good host, who dragged the podcast from the Doug-abyss of having been a venue for connected academics and relatives to push books that nobody ever wanted to read. Stewart gave the podcast the serious reboot that it deserved. We were rewarded with Sophia, who has been excellent. ... more

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  • I Love a Good Besch Sesch!

    I remember the Jen days of the podcast, very fondly. The Laura days were also good. These halcyon days of talent were followed by a terrible and directionless period, which was just total off the rails. Stewart was a good host, who dragged the podcast from the Doug abyss of being a venue for connected academics and relatives to sell books that nobody ever wanted to read, and he gave it the serious reboot that it deserved. Now, we are rewarded with Sophia, who is excellent. The podcast, helm... more

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  • Stewart is Doing Great!

    UPDATE: I remember the Jen days of the podcast very fondly, then came the Laura days, which were also good, this was followed by a terrible period that was just off the rails. Now, Stewart seems to bringing this podcast back and increasing its value. He’s clearly a credible host and the reboot is going well, so far.

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How a U.S.-China War Would Unfold
Q: How do geography and allied access influence the viability of a U.S. response?
Geography is critical; without access to bases in Japan, Korea, or the Philippines, sustaining a major operation would be extremely difficult; allies' access to airfields and sea-lanes shapes the United States' ability to project power quickly and deter or respond.
How a U.S.-China War Would Unfold
Q: Hooper, what would be the warning signals before a major Chinese incursion into Taiwan?
The most likely indicators would include a visible buildup and massing of forces near the coast, but the more dangerous and decisive step would be the timing and how quickly China tries to capitalize on that signal; delays or misreads could invite miscalculation, while a rapid mobilization would demand immediate allied and American responses.
Is Silicon Valley Corrupting Stanford?
Q: What is the How to Rule the World class and who runs it?
The class is a secret, exclusive seminar taught by a Silicon Valley CEO, limited to 12 students a year, with a rigorous admissions process that emphasizes testing personal character and ambition.
Putin Is Losing His Grip on Russia
Q: Why did internet shutdowns and security measures occur at this moment?
They reflect a broader shift in who defines state interest, the erosion of a single center of power, and a tactic by security services to manage a more uncertain social contract amid ongoing war and sanctions.
Putin Is Losing His Grip on Russia
Q: What happens to a dictatorship when the dictator stops dictating?
The guest explains that power is now fragmented among siloviks, technocrats, and elites, with internal competition intensifying as Putin's attention shifts away from domestic governance to war and geopolitics.

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What is The World Unpacked about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful, high-signal foreign policy and global affairs show that regularly features policy experts, academics, journalists, and think-tank insiders. Episodes tackle geopolitics, international law, and the ethical and practical implications of technology on governance, security, and society. Hosts guide deep-dive conversations with voices that illuminate power dynamics, state strategies, and the intersection of money, influence, and policy. Notable is the willingness to explore uncomfortable questions—ranging from authoritarian resilience and democratic backsliding to AI in modern warfare and the realities of think tanks and policy influence—through rigorous analysis and firsthand experience. Potential listeners who enjoy long-form, ide... more

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