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The Smart Economy Podcast: Real-World Blockchain Applications with Crypto, DeFi, NFTs, and DAOs

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Ethereum
Bitcoin
Defi
Blockchain
Web3
Stablecoins
Paraswap
Aztec
Zero-Knowledge Proofs
Decentralization
Gitcoin
Liquid Staking
Stable Coins
Nfts
Blackrock
MEV Resistance
Blockchain Privacy
Grants
Thorchain
Solana

The Smart Economy Podcast features interviews with some of the most interesting people within the blockchain industry, working to make the new smart economy a reality.

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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski sits down with Vivek Raman, co-founder and CEO of Etherealize, an organization focused on helping institutions work with Ethereum and integrate blockchain-based systems into existing ... more

In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Greg Osuri, founder of Akash Network and CEO of Overclock Labs, a decentralized cloud platform designed to connect unused compute supply with growing global demand. Toget... more

In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by George Zeng, chief product officer at the NEAR Protocol, a blockchain ecosystem building infrastructure for user-owned AI and decentralized applications.

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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski sits down with David Johnston, OSS code maintainer at Morpheus, a peer-to-peer network designed to power decentralized smart agents and open access to AI infrastructure.

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Recent Guests

Vivek Raman
Co-founder and CEO of Etherealize
Etherealize
Episode: Ethereum as “Productive Money”: Vivek Raman of Etherealize Breaks Down the Institutional Thesis
Greg Osuri
Founder of Akash Network and CEO of Overclock Labs
Akash Network / Overclock Labs
Episode: From AWS to Akash: Greg Osuri on Building a Decentralized Compute Marketplace
George Zeng
CPO of the NEAR Foundation
NEAR Foundation
Episode: The Next Digital Frontier: User-Owned AI, Agents, & Open Infrastructure with George Zeng of NEAR
David Johnston
OSS code maintainer at Morpheus AI, a peer-to-peer network for smart agents
Morpheus AI
Episode: David Johnston of Morpheus on Why Owning Your AI Agent Could Change Everything
Laszlo Szabo
CEO and co-founder of Kiln Finance
Kiln Finance
Episode: From Retail Validators to Wall Street: The Institutional Staking Shift with Laszlo Szabo of Kiln
Dylan Grabowski
Host of The Smart Economy Podcast
Neo News Today
Episode: From Retail Validators to Wall Street: The Institutional Staking Shift with Laszlo Szabo of Kiln
Olivia Vande Woude
Head of tokenization at Ava Labs
Ava Labs / Avalanche
Episode: Inside Avalanche’s Tokenization Push: Olivia Vande Woude on RWAs, Institutions, & Real Adoption
Zeymer Montes
CEO and founder of MOCA
MOCA
Episode: Making Crypto Feel Normal: Zeymer Montes on MOCA, Payments, & UX That Actually Works
Tomasz Stańczak
Co-executive director, Ethereum Foundation
Ethereum Foundation
Episode: Inside Ethereum’s Next Chapter: Tomasz Stańczak on the EF, L2s, & Institutional Adoption

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Dylan Grabowski
Host of The Smart Economy Podcast: Real-World Blockchain Applications with Crypto, DeFi, NFTs, and DAOs

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 26 ratings
  • Great podcast

    The Smart Economy Podcast doesn’t just talk about crypto - it explores how blockchain technology can transform industries beyond finance. It’s eye-opening to hear about applications in supply chain, healthcare, and governance.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    OhItsGlowing
    United States2 years ago
  • Amazing hosting brings out the best content

    Dylan Grabowski's interviews with industry leaders are a highlight of the podcast. His thoughtful questions and genuine curiosity draw out fascinating insights from his guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jake B ID
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Awesome!

    What I love about this podcast is how it makes complex economic and crypto concepts accessible to non-experts. The hosts have a talent for breaking down intricate ideas like tokenomics and smart contracts into digestible segments.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mdoumoctar
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Great listen

    The podcast's discussions on regulatory developments in the crypto space are particularly helpful. It keeps me informed about how evolving policies might impact the future of digital currencies.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Joenunn91
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Good show

    I learn a lot from this show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    B!gBang47
    United States2 years ago

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Guests are drawn from top-tier blockchain and crypto infrastructure players.
Listeners appreciate the coverage of regulatory developments and enterprise adoption in crypto.
Content breaks down complex topics like tokenomics and DeFi into accessible takes for both newcomers and experts.
The host asks insightful questions and does background research that elevates the interview.

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Ethereum as “Productive Money”: Vivek Raman of Etherealize Breaks Down the Institutional Thesis
Q: What's the biggest risk you're monitoring as these institutions begin to adopt public blockchains?
Key risks include DeFi contagion, privacy at scale, and regulatory shifts. The response is pragmatic governance, institutional wrappers, and privacy solutions on public networks (like zero-knowledge tech and regulated private environments) to ensure scale remains safe and compliant.
Ethereum as “Productive Money”: Vivek Raman of Etherealize Breaks Down the Institutional Thesis
Q: What is the next dog whistle for institutions after Bitcoin adoption and tokenization?
The next signal is a rapid acceleration of tokenization of real-world assets on public blockchains, with meaningful production-grade activity and assets flowing onto Ethereum-enabled ecosystems. This will be accompanied by established frameworks and products (like stablecoins and tokenized assets) that institutions can rely on to upgrade their tech stacks.
Ethereum as “Productive Money”: Vivek Raman of Etherealize Breaks Down the Institutional Thesis
Q: So you're talking about Wall Street understanding the pros and benefits that a decentralized network offers. It's quicker, there's inherent privacy solutions, maybe. Are you poised to see these things before what most of your peers on Wall Street are?
Yes, because my background on Wall Street and with technology gave me a front-row seat. Public blockchains unlock settlement efficiency and risk reduction, and institutions are gradually moving from private pilots to full production use once regulatory clarity exists. The story is about bridging the gap between crypto-native innovation and traditional finance with a neutral, scalable platform.
David Johnston of Morpheus on Why Owning Your AI Agent Could Change Everything
Q: What percentage of wallets on-chain do you expect will be agent-based and when might that shift happen?
I expect agent-based wallets to grow rapidly, with early indicators such as X402 payments enabling automatic transactions and a rapid scale toward a majority on-chain by the middle or end of the year, as agents handle more routine tasks and financial interactions.
David Johnston of Morpheus on Why Owning Your AI Agent Could Change Everything
Q: What changed in 2023 that pulled you into AI full-time?
A combination of recognizing the potential of smart agents, coining the term Smart Agents, and seeing a pivotal moment with the rise of ChatGPT-like capabilities; the realization that ownership over one's AI—data, inference, and context—would define a new era in which individuals control their own intelligence.

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The show features in-depth conversations with leading figures in blockchain, crypto infrastructure, and decentralized finance, covering real-world applications of tokenized assets, AI agents, on-chain custody, and scalable networks. Episodes frequently explore how institutional adoption, regulatory landscapes, and emerging standards are shaping the evolution of decentralized technology, often pairing technical detail with macro-level insights about energy use, governance, and user experience. A standout quality is the ability to translate complex concepts into accessible takeaways for both crypto natives and newcomers, while attracting high-profile guests across platforms and ecosystems. Listeners are likely practitioners and decision-maker... more

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