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The Shallow End

david.asa.schwartz
Sports Cards
Sports Card Collecting
Collecting
Baseball Cards
Ebay
Card Collecting
Nostalgia
Albert Pujols
Instagram
Caitlin Clark
Sports Collecting
The National
Community
Upper Deck
Baseball
WNBA
Fanatics
Topps
Juan Soto
Shohei Ohtani

The Shallow End: A Sports Card Podcast On a Budget

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Hello, cardboard lovers. In this episode, made possible by DudeBriefs, Pat and Dave wonder what time it is on the SGC Doomsday Clock, think about the evolution of collectors, and more.

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Find Dave @Iowa_Dave_Sports... more

Jason @contrarian_cards impulsively started a new PC. Dave @Iowa_Dave_Sportscards impulsively bought a rookie before that rookie had even reached the seventh inning of his first game. No apologies. No regrets. Sometimes, you've got to lean into the i... more

In 1990, a cable access station in Northern New Jersey aired "Cardboard Dreams," a documentary about the booming baseball card hobby. Come for the bad hair, stick around for a documentary that was eerily prescient about where the hobby was headed. Th... more

Listener Dan (@danscardaccount / @brewerbakerpodcast) asks us about our favorite inserts. From there, we get into Dick the Bruiser, an incredible vintage card, and what happens when content makers make content about the content makers. The Cardcast i... more

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Recent Guests

Jeff May
Comedian and podcaster referenced as guest
Jeff May (podcast host)
Episode: Cardboard Dreams - Sports Cards: The Cardcast
Jim Irvina
Basketball/card collectibles expert introduced as outside expertise
Unknown label in transcript
Episode: Cardboard Dreams - Sports Cards: The Cardcast
Mark McGrath
Musician; guest on the episode
Sugar Ray
Episode: Absurdity and Meat Sweats - Sports Cards: The Cardcast! episode 2
Robert M. Cards
Collector known as @RobertMCards on Instagram
Instagram: RobertMCards
Episode: 'What am I Missing?' - The Shallow End ep 124
Scott Lang
Collector focused on PSA 1 cards
PSA 1 Only (Instagram)
Episode: The Shallow End ep 115 - Building a Collection of PSA 1s
Greg Paper and Chrome
Friend of the show and collector featured on the episode
Paper and Chrome (Instagram)
Episode: Ten Bucks or Less episode 7 of 10 - Binder Card(inals)
Tyler Nethercott
Teapot, collector and media personality; associated with Market Movers, Spitball and Cards, Sports Card Investor
Market Movers / Spitball and Cards / Sports Card Investor
Episode: Ten Bucks or Less episode 6 - "Gold Medallions"
Adam Gray
Collector known for deep knowledge and institutional history of cards
Real27Guy (Instagram/YouTube)
Episode: Ten Bucks or Less episode 3 of 10 - "From Mom to Manute to Rudy"
Matt H.
Professional graphic designer and sports card collector
Episode: The Shallow End ep 110 - Collecting through the eyes of a graphic artist

Hosts

Pat Riley
Host of the show, The Shallow End co-host
Dave (Iowa Dave)
Co-host sharing collecting experiences; common across episodes
Dave Schwartz
Host of The Shallow End, co-host and guest host in discussions

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 52 ratings
  • Disappointed

    Loved this show until this latest episode with him going political. Bye forever

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Farm folk
    United States8 months ago
  • Good Show

    Love the show! Dave has a great perspective unlike a lot of today’s “collectors” “flippers” really enjoy a different look at the hobby as you do. Thanks Dave!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mizzoulifer
    United Statesa year ago
  • 5 stars!

    I love how insightful and reflective this show is about cards and collecting in general. Appreciate all the content and keep doing what you do! Thanks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Antonio_Ismael
    Philippines2 years ago
  • One of the best

    The Shallow End is a unique podcast that presents a perspective you won’t find elsewhere. Combining hobby introspection and engaging conversation with fun, fascinating guests, this is a must-listen podcast. I’m constantly learning from it and you can’t help asking yourself new questions after an episode.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Grigoris D
    United States2 years ago
  • Excellent Hobby Podcast

    Very thoughtful & insightful takes on the Hobby. Well worth the listen. Two thumbs up.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    111baller
    United States2 years ago

Listeners Say

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The show's humor and practical insights help demystify the hobby for busy, budget-minded collectors.
Listeners appreciate candid, honest takes and personal storytelling about collecting.
Some episodes polarize audiences when politics or contentious topics appear, but many praise the thoughtful discussion of market dynamics.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

Apple Podcasts
#152
United States/Leisure/Hobbies
Apple Podcasts
#102
Canada/Leisure/Hobbies
Apple Podcasts
#67
Belgium/Leisure/Hobbies
Apple Podcasts
#225
Philippines/Leisure/Hobbies

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Cardboard Dreams - Sports Cards: The Cardcast
Q: What was Jeff May's take on the most evergreen aspects of card collecting?
Jeff emphasized that the core appeal is rooted in personal connection and historical context, not just monetary value, and he highlighted sets like Alan and Ginter as enduring examples of how collecting can be fun and meaningful across generations.
Absurdity and Meat Sweats - Sports Cards: The Cardcast! episode 2
Q: What leverage do collectors have in negotiations or trades when considering big moves like purging or upgrading one major piece?
They emphasize building strong alternatives (BATNA) and clearly identifying targets and fallback options to increase negotiation power, making it possible to pursue desired upgrades without feeling forced into impulsive sales.
Absurdity and Meat Sweats - Sports Cards: The Cardcast! episode 2
Q: By going completely silent in the hobby while still continuing to collect, what would be gained as a card collector and what would be lost?
The hosts suggest that private collecting preserves personal joy and identity, but sharing publicly fosters community, discourse, and a window into one's passions; the balance depends on what you value—privacy, social validation, and the ability to connect with others—while recognizing that visibility can shape market dynamics and personal meaning.
What We Miss, What We Love, and Oprah - The Shallow Ending
Q: What do you love about sports cards?
The physical card as a personal time machine that transports me to meaningful moments in life, blending history, memory, and aesthetics into a tangible artifact I can hold and revisit.
'What am I Missing?' - The Shallow End ep 124
Q: How has your storage and cataloging changed your approach to buying?
He uses a meticulous digital system with scans, separate folders per card, and cloud/drive backups to stay organized, which helps him recall details and justify purchases.

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What is The Shallow End about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on sports card collecting with a focus on budget-minded approaches, personal stories, and hobby psychology. Hosts trade experiences and viewpoints on impulse buying, value, and the evolving market, often blending candid discussions with humor and accessible takes on modern collecting dynamics. Episodes frequently explore nostalgia, market volatility, and the emotional side of building a meaningful collection, along with practical show-floor observations and tradecraft for everyday listeners. A standout aspect is the blend of two steady hosts with recurring co-hosts and a rotating roster of guests who bring deep collecting knowledge, celebrity relevance, or niche expertise, all presented in an approachable, conversational s... more

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Recent guests on The Shallow End include:

1. Jeff May
2. Jim Irvina
3. Mark McGrath
4. Robert M. Cards
5. Scott Lang
6. Greg Paper and Chrome
7. Tyler Nethercott
8. Adam Gray

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