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The Power of Music Thinking

Christof Zürn
Soil Ecoacoustics
Artificial Intelligence
Leadership / Listening
Music Thinking
Music Cognition
Shakuhachi
Public Soundscapes / Field Recording
Sagrada Família
Leadership
Innovation
Generative AI
UX Research
Earshot
First Nations
Creativity
Sad Music
Music Thinking Framework
Sonic Branding
Biodiversity
Culture and Empathy

The podcast for people with a musical heart and a wicked job.

How can the dynamics of music help you navigate today’s complex business world? Host Christof Zürn explores how musical concepts like listening, tuning, rhythm, and improvisation directly translate into powerful, actionable tools for business strategy, creativity, and leadership.

In each episode, we sit down with exceptional polymat... more

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We are celebrating a major milestone! Exactly five years ago, on the 19th of May, The Power of Music Thinking podcast was launched.

To mark the occasion, host Christof Zürn revisits the archives to share hidden gems, profound insights, and incredibl... more

Spatiosonic practice is the groundbreaking field at the heart of this episode. Christof Zürn sits down with architect and composer Emma‑Kate Matthews to explore the profound links between the act of making space and the act of making sound.

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Nina Kraus
Professor of Neurobiology, Northwestern University
Northwestern University
Episode: Take Five: Highlights from Five Years of the Music Thinking Podcast
Maya Ackerman
World-renowned AI expert, pioneer in generative AI since 2015
Independent/Academic AI community
Episode: Take Five: Highlights from Five Years of the Music Thinking Podcast
Harvey Seifter
Former CEO and violinist
Orpheus Chamber Orchestra (and related leadership context)
Episode: Take Five: Highlights from Five Years of the Music Thinking Podcast
Steve Keller
Audio Alchemist and Sonic Strategy Director at Studio Resonate
Studio Resonate / SXM Media
Episode: Take Five: Highlights from Five Years of the Music Thinking Podcast
Jeena Earthiva
Proponent of Mind DJing and rhythm-based mindset techniques
Independent
Episode: Take Five: Highlights from Five Years of the Music Thinking Podcast
Emma Kate Matthews
Architect, composer, researcher and educator exploring spatiosonic practice
Bartlett School of Architecture (lecturer/researcher)
Episode: Resonant Bodies with Emma Kate Matthews
Alex Flynn Taylor
Research assistant at Flinders University, Soil Ecoacoustics researcher
Flinders University, Frontiers of Restoration Ecology
Episode: Soil Ecoacoustics - Listening to the Underground with Alex F Taylor
Matthias Röder
Musician by training (classical guitar), musicologist and AI/creativity expert
Former director at Karajan Institute; led AI-beethoven project
Episode: Beethoven and AI Agents with Matthias Röder
Fabio Cervi
Audio investigator at Earshot, a non-profit audio investigation organization
Earshot
Episode: Audio investigation for human rights with Fabio Cervi

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Christof Zürn
Host of The Power of Music Thinking

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 27 ratings
  • Music Thinking in Every Realm

    Such a unique podcast! Apply your music thinking, experience, and knowledge to other areas of life — business, leadership, and entrepreneurship. Christof leads with curiosity and sees connections between many different areas.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jawsietime
    United States8 months ago
  • Everything is Music

    Christof is a great interviewer and has wonderful unique insight into how the world of music is the world of everything!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    StarshipTrooper1989
    United States2 years ago
  • Great conversations

    wie various experts, all are as well musicians

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Creacomp
    Netherlands5 years ago
  • Beautiful insight into collaborative working

    Playful content. Let‘s Jam

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sukram Gadjo
    Germany5 years ago

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A diverse slate of experts who feel both musical and business-minded.
Thoughtful guests and practical takeaways that apply beyond music.
The show makes collaboration and listening feel actionable and fun.
Christof weaves curiosity with clear takeaways and insightful connections.

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Audio investigation for human rights with Fabio Cervi
Q: Can you walk us through the Serbia vigil case and how you determined the likelihood of a sonic weapon being used?
We gathered thousands of eyewitness testimonies, created spectrographic analyses of clips, and compared the reported experiences with acoustic signatures. By replaying low-frequency sounds and simulating the LRAD beam within the street, we showed how the crowd described a loud, inside-the-body sensation that aligned with a sonic weapon in a controlled way, while also noting the weapon's narrow beam and rapid decay.
Audio investigation for human rights with Fabio Cervi
Q: What first drew you to sound as a form of investigation and evidence, Fabio?
I grew into this work from a background in architecture and music, where acoustics and sonic thinking reveal how spaces shape sound and how sounds tell stories. The realization that audio can capture experiences and events that video cannot—especially in violent contexts—pushed me toward using sound as verifiable evidence.
Intersection of Music and Data with Chris Dalla Riva
Q: Why should listeners be interested in your upcoming book?
The book offers a novel, data-centric perspective on the history of popular music, makes complex analyses accessible, and invites debate about what the data reveals about songs people consider the best or worst in each era.
Intersection of Music and Data with Chris Dalla Riva
Q: What's inside the Billboard Hot 100 data collection besides listing songs?
The dataset includes song titles, release details, peak positions, weeks at top, writers, producers, and the origins of key contributors, providing a rich context for analyzing trends in race, gender, and genre over time.
Intersection of Music and Data with Chris Dalla Riva
Q: Can you talk about your data projects, especially the Billboard database and its open nature?
Chris describes building an open-access billboard database that tracks chart history since 1958, sharing that openness has drawn attention from publications and researchers and enabled broader participation in data-driven music analysis.

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A crossover of business leadership and musical thinking, this show explores how listening, rhythm, improvisation, and orchestration translate into concrete leadership, teamwork, and innovation tools. Episodes feature a range of guests—musicians, designers, scientists, and entrepreneurs—who share practical frameworks for transparent leadership, collaborative culture, and creative problem-solving. Notable throughlines include reframing AI as a collaborative tool rather than a magic oracle, harnessing attentive listening to shape strategy, and applying the conductor's mindset to modern organizations. The format often blends field listening, architectural or sonic context, and real-world case studies to help listeners lead with greater clarity,... more

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4. Steve Keller
5. Jeena Earthiva
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7. Alex Flynn Taylor
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