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The Leadership Lab

The Laidlaw Foundation
Leadership
Higher Education
London Business School
University College London
IE Business School
University Of St Andrews
Leadership In Higher Education
University Of Oxford
Pain Research
New York University
University Of Sydney
University Of Toronto
Pegasus Opera
Ethical Leadership
Education In Russia
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion
University Funding Model
NYU Abu Dhabi
Informa
Higher Education Funding

The Leadership Lab podcast is the antidote to the idea of leaders being heroes or zeros. It is designed to explore the complexities of leadership and what it means to be both effective and ethical, decent and dynamic. In an increasingly polarised world, leadership is often framed as a trade-off: a leader can be effective or ethical, but rarely both. The Leadership Lab questions that assumption. Ea... more

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Professor Melanie Woodin, 17th President of the University of Toronto, internationally-renowned neuroscientist, and the first woman to lead the institution in its almost 200-year history.

Stephen Carter, Group CEO of Informa, on the realities of building and sustaining leadership across radically different contexts, from the boardroom to government and back again.

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Originally published: 19 February 2026

Professor Irene Tracey, Vice Chancellor of the University of Oxford, on what it means to lead with optimism, honesty, and deep care for the environments in which people learn and thrive.

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Originally published: 13 January 2026

Right Honourable Joe Clark, 16th Prime Minister of Canada and former Foreign Minister, on the realities of political leadership, and choosing impact over visibility in a performative age.

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Originally published: 25 November 2025

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Stephen Carter
Group CEO, Informa
Informa
Episode: Stephen Carter - Group CEO, Informa
Irene Tracey
Vice Chancellor, University of Oxford
University of Oxford
Episode: Irene Tracey - Vice Chancellor, University of Oxford
Joe Clark
Right Hon. Joe Clark, 16th Prime Minister of Canada
Former Prime Minister of Canada
Episode: Joe Clark - 16th Prime Minister of Canada
Anna Fontcuberta i Morral
President of EPFL
EPFL
Episode: Anna Fontcuberta i Morral - President, EPFL
Alison Buchanan
Artistic Director, Pegasus Opera
Pegasus Opera
Episode: Alison Buchanan - Artistic Director, Pegasus Opera
Sergei Guriev
Dean, London Business School
Episode: Sergei Guriev - Dean, London Business School
Shearer West
Vice Chancellor, University of Leeds
University of Leeds
Episode: Shearer West - Vice-Chancellor, University of Leeds
Hugh Brady
President of Imperial College London
Imperial College London
Episode: Hugh Brady - President, Imperial College London
Fabio Piano
Vice Chancellor and Chief Executive of NYU Abu Dhabi
NYU Abu Dhabi
Episode: Fabio Piano - Vice-Chancellor, NYU Abu Dhabi

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Susanna Kemper
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Linda Doyle - Provost and President, Trinity College Dublin
Q: How do you handle student activism and ensure freedom of expression while guiding them to listen to alternative views?
She emphasizes harnessing passion and debate through structures like the HIST debating society and Trinity Inc, enabling rigorous discussion while guiding students to hear opposing views and grow from them.
Linda Doyle - Provost and President, Trinity College Dublin
Q: What is your view on the trade-offs between an institution focused on one thing versus a broader, multi-disciplinary university?
She sees both as valuable, noting that Trinity benefits from a broad, inclusive curriculum that contextualizes various perspectives, while recognizing the strengths of specialized schools. The trade-offs are navigated by embracing diverse disciplines and ensuring research and teaching remain aligned with the academic mission.
Christina Paxson - President, Brown University
Q: What do you think are the most important leadership traits in navigating a major university through current challenges?
She emphasizes a data-driven approach grounded in clear values, empathetic listening, and the ability to connect with and mobilize people across the campus while maintaining space for diverse viewpoints and rigorous debate.
Christina Paxson - President, Brown University
Q: Can you share a little bit about how you've reached this position?
Paxson describes a journey rooted in loving academics, building things, and taking opportunities as they emerged, rather than pursuing a fixed target, with a focus on contributing to knowledge production and education.
François Ortalo-Magné - Former Dean, London Business School
Q: How has your experience with discrimination and accents informed your leadership style and inclusion efforts?
I learned to address biases directly, leverage inclusion training, and model the behavior I want others to follow, while being mindful of the impact my responses have on shaping the tone for the entire community.

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The show centers on the complexities of leadership across sectors, with conversations that balance effectiveness and ethics in high-stakes roles. Guests tend to be senior leaders—from universities, government, and large organizations—who share candid stories about crisis management, strategic risk, and building culture that prioritizes inclusion, transparency, and long-term value. Across episodes, listeners are treated to practical leadership lessons, behind-the-scenes decision making, and reflections on how to navigate political, financial, and societal pressures without sacrificing integrity. A standout quality across episodes is the willingness to discuss failure, humility, and the human side of steering complex institutions, making it p... more

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6. Sergei Guriev
7. Shearer West
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