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The Economics of Work with Ben Zweig

Ben Zweig
Artificial Intelligence
Education
Remote Work
Labor Market
Economics
Immigration
Foreign Aid
Job Design
Work
Business
Intergenerational Mobility
Automated Technologies
Research
Agglomeration
Artificial Intelligence Adoption
Industrial Organizational Psychology
Community Colleges
Workforce Development
United States
Time Use

Work is changing, and the forces shaping it are endlessly fascinating.

In The Economics of Work, Ben Zweig sits down with leading economists, researchers, and thinkers to explore the ideas that define how we work, why we work, and what the future of work could look like. Each conversation dives deep into the literature, economic theory, and the philosophical questions that underlie the world of la... more

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The story of foreign aid is usually told as a story of insufficient resources. Bill Easterly thinks that misses the point.

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The dominant framework for measuring AI's impact on jobs may be asking the wrong question entirely.

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Bill Easterly
Economist, author of The Elusive Quest for Growth, White Man's Burden, The Tyranny of Experts, and Violent Saviors
Economist
Episode: Bill Easterly - What We Get Wrong About Foreign Aid
Isabella Loaiza
Researcher at MIT
MIT
Episode: Isabella Loaiza - Beyond Exposure
Jasmine Sun
Writer and journalist covering the AI economy
Episode: Jasmine Sun - The Youth's Love/Hate Relationship with AI
Leah Boustan
Professor at Yale and co-author of Streets of Gold
Yale University
Episode: Leah Boustan - What Immigration Tells Us About Economic Opportunity
John Boudreau
Professor Emeritus, USC; leading thinker on the future of HR and workforce strategy
University of Southern California
Episode: John Boudreau - Are Business Leaders Listening to HR Theory?
Dan Hamermesh
Labor economist known for research on time use, discrimination, beauty premiums, and leisure economics
Episode: Dan Hamermesh - Time, Beauty, and What Economics Gets Wrong About Work
Rachel Lipson
Researcher and policy entrepreneur affiliated with Harvard, Brookings and the Aspen Institute
Harvard University / Brookings Institution / Aspen Institute
Episode: Rachel Lipson - Bridging Business, Education, and Policy to Build a Better Workforce
Daniel Rock
Assistant professor at the Wharton School and co-founder of Work Helix
Wharton School; Work Helix
Episode: Daniel Rock - What Automation Means for How We Organize Jobs
Alexis Fink
Industrial-organizational psychologist and people analytics leader
Formerly at Metta, Microsoft; prominent IO psychologist
Episode: Alexis Fink - The Science of Making Work Not Suck

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Bill Easterly - What We Get Wrong About Foreign Aid
Q: Do you think there is a viable way to thread the needle between respecting self-determination and providing meaningful support to the poor, such as via subsidies or market-based mechanisms?
Markets and trade offer a path to self-determination through voluntary decisions; targeted subsidies or transfers can help, but they should be designed to empower beneficiaries rather than fund coercive or donor-centered agendas, and should aim at long-term institutional improvements rather than perpetual aid.
Bill Easterly - What We Get Wrong About Foreign Aid
Q: What do you think a well-intentioned person with a lot of resources should do differently to avoid doing harm?
Resist the impulse to paternalistically decide for others; instead, support voluntary exchanges, empower beneficiary consent, and consider policy designs that align with local self-determination while reducing the chances that aid props up coercive regimes.
Isabella Loaiza - Beyond Exposure
Q: Let's break down this debate about how AI is changing work and what you don't like about it. What are we getting wrong in how we talk about AI and jobs, AI and work?
Isabella argues that the dominant doom-laden narrative about a white-collar bloodbath is overstated and that outcomes depend on how technologies are designed and adopted; augmentation, not just replacement, is a more accurate frame for many tasks.
John Boudreau - Are Business Leaders Listening to HR Theory?
Q: What is the role of standardization or principles in HR akin to finance?
Develop shared decision frameworks and enduring principles (instead of fixed measurements) that guide people investments, similar to the theory of the firm in finance, so that decisions about talent are rigorous and comparable across organizations.
John Boudreau - Are Business Leaders Listening to HR Theory?
Q: How can organizations start adopting a work-centered approach without overhauling their entire system?
Start by identifying bottlenecks and the human elements that contribute to them, then consider reorganizing work around those bottlenecks with decision frameworks and principles, not just new metrics or taxonomies.

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A thoughtful series of conversations with leading economists and researchers about how work is evolving under technological change, remote and hybrid models, and shifting labor markets. Episodes routinely explore practical implications for organizations—from measuring performance and designing jobs to policies that help workers adapt to automation and globalization. A standout thread across episodes is the emphasis on data-driven management, thoughtful governance, and nuanced views on AI's productivity vs. disruption, all anchored by real-world examples and actionable takeaways for leaders and decision-makers.

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