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Join the AICD’s Chief Economist Mark Thirlwell GAICD for this weekly deep dive into the latest economic news from Australia and around the world. From interest rates to trade wars and everything in between, we have you covered.

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Su-Lin Ong
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Episode: 213 - GDP Growth Stumbles, Per Capita Recession Deepens, Will the RBA Hold Firm?
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Episode: 193 - Risky business (with guest Roger Dennis)
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Mark Thirlwell
Chief Economist at AICD and host known for his deep insights into economic issues and policy analysis.
Raph Dixon
Publications Lead at AICD, co-hosting with a focus on insightful economic discussions.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 61 ratings
  • Never stop!

    Great round up and narrative around every release that matters to market and economists in Australia. Easy to digest. Great product pitched at the perfect level for someone with an interest in the state of the Australian economy

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KommissarS
    Australiaa year ago
  • Loved it!!

    Very interesting 🕺

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Morgan.T🪩
    Australia2 years ago
  • Informative

    Very informative and easy to digest. Love the podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    claudiaccc1234
    Australia3 years ago
  • Very good

    Mark is excellent. Ivan is good. Ivan, please stop referring to “everyone’s favourite segment” which is a dubious claim and not the reason, I suspect, most people listen. Also, Ivan, please stop snickering/chuckling as you talk through various issues. This sometimes comes across as patronising.

    Much as I like this podcast, it is rather long.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    J pacer
    Australia4 years ago
  • Thanks from Fiji

    Dear Mark and Ivan, I noted the existence of your podcast in “The Economic Weekly” newsletter so have been listening to most episodes for the past 6 weeks.

    Thank you for them, I enjoy them (while some content goes over my head I’ve been a bit of a closet economist for 30 or so years and am learning a lot).

    Warwick PLEASS,

    Pleass Global Limited

    Fiji

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Warwick14
    Australia5 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the podcast for its informative and engaging content about economic issues, finding it a valuable resource for understanding complex topics.
Many reviews highlight Mark Thirlwell's knowledgeable analysis and ability to make economics accessible to a wide audience.
Overall, the insights provided are seen as relevant and timely, addressing both national and international economic news.
Some feedback indicates that while the podcast is well-received, there are occasional critiques about the length of episodes or specific segments.

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Special - Tech, AI, the New World Order, and the Future of Growth
Q: What should we expect for productivity in the context of remote work?
The US seems to have benefited from remote work with significant productivity improvements, whereas other countries may not have seen the same results due to lack of investment and different economic circumstances.
Special - Tech, AI, the New World Order, and the Future of Growth
Q: What do you think about the stock market valuations relying on AI?
The stock market seems to reflect a belief in AI's future potential, but there are concerns about whether current valuations are justified or if we're creating an AI bubble.
Special - Tech, AI, the New World Order, and the Future of Growth
Q: What are your musings on AI at the moment, Raph?
There's a debate about whether AI models, like GPT, have hit a wall, and despite huge advancements, further breakthroughs might not be easily achievable with the existing architecture.
213 - GDP Growth Stumbles, Per Capita Recession Deepens, Will the RBA Hold Firm?
Q: What makes Australia particularly bad in this regard? Why are we getting poorer down here?
Australia lagged with inflation rates and has a prolonged period of higher interest rates affecting living standards while GDP per capita continues to fall.
212 - Is Germany Kaput? Lessons for Australia in a Deglobalising World
Q: Is Germany's business model broken? Mark, yes or no?
It's looking highly challenged.

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