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The Defiant - DeFi Podcast

Camila Russo
Ethereum
Defi
Near Protocol
Nfts
Turkey
Blockchain Technology
Art
Sweatcoin
Blockchain Scalability
Bitcoin
AI Governance
Digital Art
Celestia
Cryptocurrency Adoption
Account Abstraction
ZK Starks
Connext
Club NFT
Blockchain
Makerdao

The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

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In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Jing Wang to discuss how Optimism is evolving and why the debate over what counts as a “real” Ethereum L2 might be missing the point.

Jing argues that the most important question is... more

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Layer 2 was supposed to scale Ethereum.

But what if it fragmented it instead?

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n this episode, we break down:

• Why public chains are “expensive databases”

• Why composability is Ethereum’s real value

• Why stablecoins don’t need blockchains

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Bitcoin Renaissance or JPEG Hype?In 2023, Bitcoin had what many called a renaissance.NFTs on Bitcoin.BRC-20 tokens.Runes.10x transaction spikes.Fee revenue surging to levels not seen since 2017.And then — just as quickly — it cooled.So was the Bitcoi... more

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Recent Guests

Jing Wang
Co-founder of Optimism
Optimism
Episode: Optimism Is Done With “Ethereum Alignment” — Users Come First
Alex Katz
CEO of Kerberus, a Web3 security solution
Kerberus
Episode: ​​Is DYOR Dead? Building a Safer Web3 with Alex Katz
Aryan Sheikhalian
Head of Research at CMT Digital
CMT Digital
Episode: What Crypto VCs Want Now | Aryan Sheikhalian
Ben Nadareski
CEO and co-founder of Solstice Labs
Solstice Labs
Episode: Can Crypto Be Trusted? Ben Nadareski’s Answer to the Skeptics
Ryan Zurrer
Crypto pioneer involved in various blockchain initiatives, including co-writing the MakerDAO white paper and leading Dialectic.
Episode: $100 Million DeFi DAT Chooses ETH | Ryan Zurrer
Reeve Collins
Co-founder of Tether, co-founder of WeFi, and chairman at STBL
WeFi, Tether
Episode: J.P. Morgan’s Nightmare: How Stablecoins Let You Be Your Own Bank | Reeve Collins
Fakhul Miah
Managing director of GoMining Institutional and a former Morgan Stanley executive
GoMining
Episode: Bitcoin Mining’s Golden Age or Final Battle? Insights From Fakhul Miah
Prabal Banerjee
Co-founder of Avale and ex-research lead at Polygon.
Avale
Episode: Bridging the Gaps: Prabal Banerjee on Scalability, Interoperability, and the Future of DeFi
Elliott Viman
Co-founder of BlackHole DEX, providing insights into macro and crypto markets.
BlackHole DEX
Episode: The $10 Trillion Question: Crypto's Biggest Cycle Yet with Ellio Trades

Host

Camila Russo
Host of The Defiant DeFi-focused podcast, known for interviewing builders, researchers, and industry leaders in crypto and blockchain topics.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 259 ratings
  • 10/10

    One of the top podcasts in the blockchain space.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kfixbwhdisa
    United States2 months ago
  • Boring

    Someone recommended me to listen to this podcast . In simple words - boring and waste of time .

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    plutobotreturns
    United States4 months ago
  • Such a wealth of knowledge! 🧠

    It’s obvious Camila puts extraordinary effort into every single episode. But what makes this show a true standout is the quality of the guests, the stories they tell, and tactics they bring to the table. Don't miss it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ASobering
    United States4 years ago
  • CRINGE Personified

    This show was on a recommended list from someone who’s opinions in the space I take very seriously, so the shocking weakness of this pod was very surprising. She sounds like an uninformed, insecure 20 year old intern thrown into an interview seat with no idea how to conduct an interview (or even have a normal-ish adult conversation) or basic level of understanding of the topics, people, or businesses at hand. Almost a surreally bad podcast, which came as both a massive surprise and disappointmen... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    alex x 22
    United States4 years ago
  • Insightful & Elucidating

    Camilla’s journalistic background, combined with her broad knowledge of the space, enables her to ask poignant questions that bring greater insight into a crypto project, while simultaneously enabling us to understand said project’s uniqueness and significance within the wider crypto space.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dutchladle
    United States4 years ago

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Professional and insightful host with high-caliber guests
Mixed opinions exist around interview pacing and host style
Listeners praise deep, strategic conversations on DeFi and enterprise adoption

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#113
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#133
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#159
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#207
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#244
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#249
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Why DAO Governance Always Turns Political
Q: What will drive the massive growth in 2026?
The growth will come from capital-seeking efficiency as it switches to earn better risk-adjusted returns.
Why DAO Governance Always Turns Political
Q: What does the Sky overhaul transformation look like now?
The transformation is complete, focusing now on executing and scaling up the new system.
Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok
Q: So does this give Circle the opportunity to again kind of position itself against Tether as kind of the more compliant stable coin?
Nikhil emphasized that Circle has been transparent about its reserves and compliance, wanting to showcase their reliable methods which differ from Tether's approach.
Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok
Q: Is Circle having an increased focus on emerging countries, especially Latin America?
Nikhil explained that while they focus on licensed markets for primary market liquidity, they have developer programs globally to encourage the use of their infrastructure without aggressively seeking primary market liquidity in emerging markets.
Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok
Q: Can you talk about your recent growth, or at least growth this year, because USDC circulation did take a hit from the US commercial banking crisis?
Nikhil discussed that the growth has come from the core asset trading markets and how USDC is increasingly seen as more valuable and functional. They invested significantly in banking rails and regulatory infrastructure to build trust.

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The show consistently centers on real-world DeFi adoption, institutional use, layer-2 scaling, and the evolving intersection of traditional finance with blockchain tech. Episodes often feature top builders and researchers discussing enterprise readiness, tokenization, privacy, and compliance, with a strong emphasis on practical applications and scalable architectures. Notable traits include high-caliber guest rosters, technically rich conversations, and a forward-looking view on institutional participation and regulatory clarity that can appeal to professionals evaluating where DeFi and Web3 are headed.

A standout aspect is its cadence of high-profile interviews and thoughtful explorations of how infrastructure, tokenomics, and governance ... more

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2. Alex Katz
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