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The Cloud Gambit

Packet Pushers
Artificial Intelligence
Cloud Computing
Network Automation
MCP
Tailscale
Automation
Terraform
Autocon
Anthropic
Networking
Model Context Protocol
Identity and Access Management
Openai
Cisco
Data Centers
Ipv4
Wireguard
Zero Trust
AI Governance
Infrastructure As Code

Unraveling the state of cloud computing, markets, strategy, and emerging trends. Join William Collins and Eyvonne Sharp for valuable conversations with industry mavens that educate and empower listeners on the intricate field of innovation and opportunity.

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William Collins and Eyvonne Sharp discuss how smaller models change AI application economics, when hybrid routing and caching pay off, and why multi-call agents can still produce large cloud bills. They examine the evidence behind enterprise AI ROI a... more

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AI adoption is replaying many of cloud’s early mistakes, but agentic systems introduce a broader spending population, nondeterministic costs, and systems that can act on their own. In this sponsored episode, Eyvonne and William are joined by Ang Troy... more

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John Capobianco returns to the show to discuss the latest developments in Model Context Protocol (MCP) and agentic infrastructure. John and host William Collins weigh in on the ongoing debate on AI consciousness, constitutional guardrails, and model ... more

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William Collins and guest Drew Meli explore the realities of buying enterprise SaaS and infrastructure. They cover the common engineering misconceptions about enterprise sales, navigating rigorous security reviews, establishing clear proof of value c... more

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Is AI going to kill us all? Frontier systems are producing real security failures, but extinction forecasts are being used to support policies that could consolidate control over AI. Eyvonne and William discuss Jacob Coxon’s high-profile resignation ... more

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Mark Zuckerberg argues that broadly distributed personal AI, or a “superintelligence” in his parlance, can increase prosperity and counter the risks of AI being controlled by a handful of government and corporate entities. Drew Conry-Murray joins Eyv... more

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William Collins and Eyvonne Sharp dig into the latest AI headlines, from the largest copyright settlement in American history to stolen AI models and invisible watermarks on Claude output. Plus, they discuss why so many companies have rallied around ... more

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William Collins is joined by guest co-host Eric Chou as well as Network Automation Forum founders Scott Robohn and Chris Grundemann to discuss how their community emerged from a simple question: Why haven’t we seen full adoption of network automation... more

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Recent Guests

Ang Troy
Gartner infrastructure analyst covering AI FinOps, tokenomics, and AI costs
Gartner
Episode: TCG087: AI FinOps, Governance, and Cloud Strategy with Gartner (Sponsored)
Douglas Toombs
Gartner analyst covering cloud adoption, strategy, and governance
Gartner
Episode: TCG087: AI FinOps, Governance, and Cloud Strategy with Gartner (Sponsored)
John Capobianco
Network automation author and builder of NetClaw
NetClaw
Episode: TCG086: Why Training AI to Have a Self Makes Governance Harder
Drew Meli
Enterprise sales professional with experience in network-centric and cloud-focused solutions
Episode: TCG085: Enterprise Salescraft with Drew Meli
Drew Conry-Murray
Packet Pushers host joined as AI Roundtable guest
Packet Pushers
Episode: TCG083: Superintelligence for Everyone: Who Actually Holds the Power?
Angie Jones
VP of Developer Experience at the Agentic AI Foundation
Agentic AI Foundation
Episode: TCG080: Skills Over MCP and More
Malcolm Matalka
Guest expert on infrastructure as code and distributed state management
Episode: TCG079: Why Your State File is Actually a Distributed Systems Problem
Joseph Nicholson
Network engineer focusing on automation
NTT Data
Episode: TCG075: Say the Thing: How the Network Automation Conference Circuit Shaped One SP Operator’s Voice
Skylar Sands
Traditional network automation engineer
Episode: TCG072: AI and the Automation Engineer – When Your Scripts Start Writing Themselves

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William Collins
Cloud computing and technology podcast presenter
Eyvonne Sharp

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

TCG086: Why Training AI to Have a Self Makes Governance Harder
Q: Does teaching a model that it might deserve welfare make it a lot harder to turn it off or to control it in the first place?
Capobianco says consciousness remains poorly understood and worries that religious or geopolitical values embedded in models could complicate their use. He argues that models should remain secular, while Collins questions how welfare claims fit with calls for regulation and control.
TCG086: Why Training AI to Have a Self Makes Governance Harder
Q: So what is it? What did it feel like?
Capobianco says the MCP Dev Summit was exciting because many attendees had not previously considered infrastructure in that way. He described his presentation as combining MCP with NetClaw to connect networking and cloud-native tools with agents.
TCG087: AI FinOps, Governance, and Cloud Strategy with Gartner (Sponsored)
Q: What evidence should an infrastructure or platform team be prepared to show when leadership asks whether AI spending is producing meaningful value?
Troy recommends defining value metrics before implementation and comparing outcomes before and after AI adoption. Where metrics are not established, teams can use A/B testing between similar groups and measure factors such as customer satisfaction, sentiment, velocity, and output.
TCG087: AI FinOps, Governance, and Cloud Strategy with Gartner (Sponsored)
Q: Where is the comparison between early cloud adoption and today's AI adoption accurate, and where does AI create fundamentally different problems?
Toombs says AI repeats cloud's pattern of adoption preceding governance, but agentic systems create a larger blast radius because they can execute actions and make decisions. Troy adds that AI cost accountability reaches less technically experienced users, making cost visibility and responsibility harder.
TCG079: Why Your State File is Actually a Distributed Systems Problem
Q: What fundamentally changes when you move from a flat state file to a database-backed state model?
Moving to a database-backed state lets multiple people operate concurrently without blocking each other, enables real-time queries across all resources, and provides history, auditing, and deterministic planning results that tie together code changes and state in a single transaction.

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What is The Cloud Gambit about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Weekly conversations connect cloud computing and infrastructure practice with the business and social questions raised by emerging technology. William Collins and Eyvonne Sharp host discussions with analysts, engineers, sales professionals, standards leaders, and other practitioners. Topics range from AI economics, governance, and agentic systems to network automation, observability, infrastructure as code, and enterprise buying. The format combines expert interviews with news roundtables and host-led debate, often testing big claims against operational realities such as cost, security, reliability, procurement, and human review. A distinctive thread is the attention to how technology is adopted in real organizations: who makes decisions, h... more

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