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The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians. For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ring... more

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Uploading your song to Spotify is not the same as registering it, and that gap is costing artists real money. Every stream actually generates three separate royalties, but most artists only ever collect one.

In this episode, Sarah sits down with Geo... more

Why do artists get busier than ever and still go broke? Because most musicians treat the paycheck as profit and forget the costs that consume it.

In this episode, Sarah sits down with Gary Arbuthnot and Craig Meyer, co-founders of GigLogic, a pricin... more

Most artists sign with a manager and have no idea what they're actually agreeing to. In this episode, Sarah sits down with James Hodgin, an artist manager since 1995 who has worked with Thousand Foot Krutch, Chris August, Zane Williams, Kylie Rae Har... more

Jorge Brea has spent 20 years watching songs succeed and fail at scale. As founder and CEO of Symphonic, he's distributed over two million songs, and in this episode he gets refreshingly honest about what actually separates the records that break thr... more

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Craig Meyer
Co-founder of GigLogic
GigLogic
Episode: How to Price a Gig So You Actually Make Money | Gary Arbuthnot & Craig Meyer Giglogic
Gary Arbuthnot
Musician, agent, and co-founder of GigLogic
GigLogic
Episode: How to Price a Gig So You Actually Make Money | Gary Arbuthnot & Craig Meyer Giglogic
Jorge Brea
Founder and CEO of Symphonic
Symphonic
Episode: He's Distributed 2 Million Songs. Here's Why Most Don't Break Through | Jorge Brea, CEO of Symphonic
Jordan Glickson
VP of Music and Talent at VEVO
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Episode: The Music Video Strategy Every Independent Artist Needs in 2026
Dina LaPolt
Entertainment lawyer, activist, author
LaPolt Law
Episode: Stop Giving Away Your Rights: Dina LaPolt on AI, Ownership & Artist Power
Stephen Parker
Executive Director
National Independent Venue Association (NIVA)
Episode: The Battle for the Future of Live Music
Leigh Holt
Founder and president of Mad Jet, branding and artist management
Mad Jet
Episode: Execution Over Perfection: Real Music Industry Leadership for Indie Artists & Managers
Dillon Carmichael
Country music artist
Riser House (record label)
Episode: What It Really Takes to Build a Sustainable Music Career
Amy Wolter
Live music producer with Tom Jackson Productions, specializing in stage presence and audience connection, with experience spanning artists from The Voice and American Idol.
Tom Jackson Productions
Episode: The Live Show Formula: Moments That Move Tickets & Merch

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Sarah Fleshner
Host of The Business Side of Music, 362 Entertainment

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 59 ratings
  • Fun Story

    This was an excellent podcast and a great story, I’ve already shared with others.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bojidude
    United States2 years ago
  • A Must-Listen for Musicians!

    This podcast has more useful and practical information than what most colleges teach. The more you listen and do what’s talked about, the further your career can go!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DrBaritone
    United States3 years ago
  • Very Informative!!

    This podcast is for music fans of ALL genres, aspiring musicians, as well as new and old music business specialists. This is a must-listen to podcast for anyone interested in the behind the scenes of the music industry!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Amanda.Jacks
    United States4 years ago
  • Great resource for musicians!

    This podcast is a treasure trove of knowledge for all musicians trying to make a living!! The topics are relevant and useful, and the guests are engaging. Bob is an excellent host and does a great job of asking the right questions to get the most out of his guests. I’ve learned so much from this show and can’t wait to hear more!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PlayitagainChris
    United States4 years ago
  • Great Show

    This podcast is full of great information and insightful tips! A must listen for musicians who want to get on top of the business side of things!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Gummaz
    Australia4 years ago

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How to Price a Gig So You Actually Make Money | Gary Arbuthnot & Craig Meyer Giglogic
Q: If you could leave listeners with one piece of advice, what would it be?
Take time to become a master of your trade across all elements of the business, build relationships locally first, and use data-driven tools to negotiate with confidence.
How to Price a Gig So You Actually Make Money | Gary Arbuthnot & Craig Meyer Giglogic
Q: What is one number every artist should know before negotiating?
Profit margin and the artist's monthly nut, i.e., how much they need to bring in to cover expenses and maintain sustainability.
How to Price a Gig So You Actually Make Money | Gary Arbuthnot & Craig Meyer Giglogic
Q: What is one habit every artist should change about booking?
Know your floor, your show profiles, and your options so you have more opportunities to say yes and negotiate from a position of clarity rather than assumptions.
He's Distributed 2 Million Songs. Here's Why Most Don't Break Through | Jorge Brea, CEO of Symphonic
Q: If you were an artist in 2026 and releasing a song, lay out exactly what you would do.
Develop a release schedule with lead time and marketing drivers, prioritize singles over albums initially, and use collaborations and social content calendars. Leverage Symphonic's tools for planing, advertising, and third-party playlisting to build momentum, while monitoring data signals like saves to time future releases.

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The show focuses on practical, real-world guidance for artists and music industry professionals navigating revenue, rights, live performance, touring, and business operations. Episodes frequently feature executives and founders from platforms and organizations shaping the music landscape, along with artists sharing long-term career strategies, team leadership, and practical steps for monetizing across streaming, live shows, and licensing. Noteworthy angles include hands-on advice for independent artists, the ethics of data and rights management, and leadership frameworks that sustain careers over time, making it valuable for listeners who want actionable takeaways to grow income and control over their work.

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1. Craig Meyer
2. Gary Arbuthnot
3. Jorge Brea
4. Jordan Glickson
5. Dina LaPolt
6. Stephen Parker
7. Leigh Holt
8. Dillon Carmichael

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