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Since Attlee & Churchill

Lee David Evans & Richard Johnson
Labour Party
Conservative Party
Margaret Thatcher
Keir Starmer
Harold Wilson
Clement Attlee
Edward Heath
Tony Blair
European Economic Community
Harold Macmillan
House Of Lords
Commonwealth
Brexit
British Politics
Judith Hart
Winston Churchill
European Union
Liberal Democrats
House Of Commons
United Kingdom

The podcast about post-war British politics - since Attlee & Churchill. Hosted by Lee David Evans, an historian of the Conservative Party, and Richard Johnson, an historian of the Labour Party.

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This week, Lee and Richard are joined by former Business Secretary and Liberal Democrat leader Vince Cable to discuss his new book, 'Eclipsing the West: China, India and the Forging of a New World.' Drawing upon his experience as an economist, Cabine... more

In this week's Matters of Interest, Lee looks back at mid-term changes of Prime Minister and asks: do new leaders tend to transform their party's fortunes? Or will Labour MPs hoping for a boost under new Prime Minister Andy Burnham be left disappoint... more

Almost twenty years after Tony Blair left Downing Street, how should we judge the record of New Labour? In this Summer Book Club episode, Lee and Richard are joined by historian Glen O'Hara to discuss his new book, 'New Labour, New Britain?' Together... more

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This week, Richard and Lee place two of the biggest stories in British politics into their historical context. Richard explores the curious history of MPs who have voluntarily triggered by-elections – upon accepting ministerial appointment, changing ... more

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Matthew Elliott
Chief executive of the Vote Leave campaign; author of Ten Years On, The Untold Story of Brexit
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Conservative MP who became Education Minister and later a Cabinet member
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Harold Lever
MP for Central Manchester; influential in Wilson era governments
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Episode: Who are Manchester’s great forgotten MPs? Live from the Manchester Histories Festival
Anthony Barber
Conservative MP, Chancellor of the Exchequer known for the Barber Boom
Conservative Party
Episode: Who are Manchester’s great forgotten MPs? Live from the Manchester Histories Festival
Tom Chidwick
Historian of the 1970s, author of a book about the 1979 Scottish devolution referendum
Arundells
Episode: Who achieved 'the most significant by-election success ever’?
Katherine Carter
Curator of Chartwell and author of the book 'Churchill's Citadel'
Chartwell
Episode: How did Churchill use Chartwell to change the course of history?
Dr. Mark Garnett
Prominent writer on conservatism
Episode: Bonus: What was it like working for Ted Heath?
Alvin S. Felzenberg
Presidential Historian, Political Commentator and former public official
Former Official Spokesman for the 9-11 Commission
Episode: What were the Kennedys up to in Britain?
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Hosts

Lee Evans
Historian of the Conservative Party; host of the series; frequently described as a Conservative Party historian and commentator.
Richard Johnson
Historian of the Labour Party; co-host, with a focus on Labour perspectives in post-war British politics.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 222 ratings
  • Fascinating and endlessly listenable

    An excellent pod covering post-war British political history, from the micro to the macro.

    The presenters are so deeply knowledgeable and measured in their discussion that this is a genuinely addictive listen.

    They are unlike other podcast hosts in that they don’t do banter or humour, but despite that, it’s never dry or dull. I don’t know how they manage that but they do.

    I particularly admire and appreciate their ability to respectfully disagree - and they never talk over each other (an i... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stripey girl
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • High Praise From California

    I am generally not a podcast listener but stumbled upon ‘Since Atlee & Churchill’ after reading John Bew’s ‘Clement Attlee: The Man Who Made Modern Britain,’ and I am hooked. The podcast covers a fascinating period in British history and a period that has always fascinated me, post World War I British history. While named for Atlee & Churchill, the Podcast really covers British political history since the establishment of the first Labour Government. The ‘Matters of Interest’ segment, now its ow... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    John Dunlap
    United States4 months ago
  • Varied, insightful & historically informative, plus enjoyable disagreement/banter between the presenters. High standard maintained. Best political history podcast BY FAR.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    44Fernleighs
    4 months ago
  • The Rest Are Amateurs

    Make Alistair Campbell and Rory Stuart look like absolute amateurs

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CTBrandon
    United Kingdom6 months ago
  • Just brilliant!

    For anyone who is interested in politics (and everyone really should be!) and particularly post war politics, then this superb podcast is for you. Presented by two intelligent , articulate and extremely knowledgeable hosts who provide informative but balanced discussion on post World War 2 British politics in depth. I am so glad I found this podcast and constantly recommend it to friends and colleagues.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NHSandproud
    United Kingdom6 months ago

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Thoughtful, civil and expertly researched.
High-quality book recommendations and nuanced current-affairs context.
A must-listen for serious history fans who dislike partisan banter.
Balanced, erudite, and accessible historical discussion.

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#184
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#230
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Matters of Interest: The Order of the Garter and the Tyranny of the Benefit-Cost Ratio
Q: Richard, what's your matter of interest this week?
The focus is on Benefit-Cost Ratios (BCRs) and their role in evaluating public projects, with a critical view of over-reliance on this single metric and a call to consider wider social and moral values in decision-making.
Brexit Referendum: 10 Years On - Special Episode with Matthew Elliott
Q: How did Elliott view the role of Labour and right-leaning Labour figures in Vote Leave, and what would have changed if Corbyn or other Labour leaders had taken a different stance?
Elliott emphasized that broad coalition-building mattered, and Labour figures who endorsed Leave helped enhance legitimacy and reach beyond Conservative voters; he suggested that if Labour had been more united or led by a different figure like Corbyn to actively support Leave, the campaign could have moved more voters and potentially shifted the outcome. However, he also noted Corbyn's lack of active involvement limited impact in this scenario.
Brexit Referendum: 10 Years On - Special Episode with Matthew Elliott
Q: What were the key lessons from the AV referendum that Elliott applied to the EU referendum campaign?
The main takeaways were the importance of a simple, repeatable core message, the use of credible messengers from across parties to broaden appeal, and avoiding overcomplication by focusing on big ideas rather than minutiae, which helped keep the campaign cohesive and oriented toward swing voters.
What did the first Labour government achieve?
Q: What events did it face that it couldn't necessarily predict?
The Labour government faced strikes and industrial unrest, which they often responded to by siding with employers, leading to tensions with trade unions.
What did the first Labour government achieve?
Q: To what extent did this government know what it wanted to do?
The government did not have a clear agenda and was beset by high expectations, performing few miracles during its time in office.

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Two historians discuss post-war British politics with depth and civility, balancing scholarly analysis with accessible storytelling. Episodes cover topics from leadership contests and by-elections to industrial strikes and constitutional questions, often pairing rigorous historical context with contemporary lessons. A standout feature is a steady cadence and thoughtful exchanges that mix archival detail, book recommendations, and personal anecdotes, making complex political history approachable for educated listeners who enjoy nuanced conversations over partisan banter.

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