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Electric Vehicles
Tesla
Climate Change
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Inflation Reduction Act
Energy Transition
EPA Power Plant Rules
Supercharger Network
EV Market
Carbon Emissions
Energy Policy
Rooftop Solar
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law
Charging Infrastructure
Elon Musk
Wind Energy
Clean Energy Manufacturing
Liquefied Natural Gas
Clean Energy
U.s.-China Economic Relations

Every week, Heatmap News Executive Editor Robinson Meyer and Princeton University Professor and energy systems expert Jesse Jenkins make sense of the biggest shift of our time -- navigating the energy transition away from fossil fuels. Drawing on their years of experience reporting on and researching climate change and decarbonization, Meyer and Jenkins unpack the most important issues of the week... more

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The United States and Israel have launched a devastating new war on Iran. What has happened so far, when could it end, and what could it mean for oil, gas, and the global energy shift?

Rob is joined by Gregory Brew, an analyst with the Eurasia Group... more

As electricity affordability has risen in the public consciousness, so too has it gone up the priority list for climate groups — although many of their proposals are merely repackaged talking points from past political cycles. But are there risks of ... more

Just a handful of tech companies plan to spend nearly $700 billion combined this year investing in artificial intelligence — and much of that money will go to data centers and the energy used to keep them on. How is this boom transforming the America... more

The Supreme Court just struck down President Trump’s most ambitious tariff plan. What does that ruling mean for clean energy? For the data center boom? For America’s industrial policy?

On this emergency episode of Shift Key, Rob is joined by Jonas N... more

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Recent Guests

Jonas Nahm
Associate professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and former Senior Economist for Industrial Strategy at the White House Council of Economic Advisors
Johns Hopkins University
Episode: What the Supreme Court’s Tariff Ruling Means for the Energy Transition
Ken Gillingham
Professor of Economics at Yale and former Senior Economist for Energy and the Environment at the White House Council of Economic Advisers.
Yale University
Episode: The Outdated Economics Driving Trump’s Car Standards Rollback
Hannah Hess
Associate Director at the Rhodium Group.
Rhodium Group
Episode: The Outdated Economics Driving Trump’s Car Standards Rollback
Jody Freeman
Archibald Cox Professor of Law at Harvard Law School and Director of the Energy and Environmental Law Program
Harvard Law School
Episode: Trump’s Assault on the Clean Air Act and What Happens Next
Senator Martin Heinrich
Ranking Democratic member of the Senate Energy Committee
U.S. Senate
Episode: What Senator Martin Heinrich Needs to See in a Permitting Deal
Nathaniel Horadam
Former leader in critical minerals policy at the U.S. Department of Energy
Full Tilt Strategies, LLC
Episode: Trump’s Most Self-Defeating Move on Rare Minerals
Greig Mordue
Professor of engineering and public policy at McMaster University, former executive with Toyota's Canadian manufacturing operation
McMaster University
Episode: What the China-Canada EV Trade Deal Really Means
Andrew Moseman
Heatmap contributor and observer of the electric vehicle market
Heatmap News
Episode: What the China-Canada EV Trade Deal Really Means
Ben King
Director of the Climate and Energy Practice at the Rhodium Group
Rhodium Group
Episode: Why America’s Climate Emissions Surged in 2025

Hosts

Robinson Meyer
Founding Executive Editor at Heatmap News with a focus on energy and climate transition.
Jesse Jenkins
Professor of Energy Systems Engineering at Princeton University, specializing in energy technology and policy.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 271 ratings
  • Useful insight into power markets

    I’m starting out as a state government lawyer in public utility law with a focus on electricity, and the recent episodes and summer school episodes have been a useful entry point into the worlds of energy science, policy, and markets.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JHPAOCA
    United States6 months ago
  • Educational and interesting

    Great episode on electricity markets. Especially the commentary on gamifying real time pricing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    unsatisfied customer #99
    United States6 months ago
  • Educational and Entertaining

    Robinson and Jesse do an excellent job of both keeping me informed about climate change topics while they also entertain with an enjoyable, candid conversation.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    katycryts
    United States8 months ago
  • Spiritual?

    Environmentalist are actually “concrete” observers. They see habitat loss and point it out. When very few others are able to recognize it, they may have words of condemnation, but they are seeing the forest, not just the trees.

    You don’t have to belittle people who care about life more than you, and for longer than you, to make your point.

    Are you saying Rachel Carson was too spiritual in pointing out the scientific effects of DDT?

    Truth is, human animals don’t want to burn calories physically... more

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    WilderLead
    United States8 months ago
  • A serious, detailed, and engaging podcast

    If you are interested/concerned about environmental challenges and how they fit into American/global society, this is the podcast for you. The hosts go into detail on techno/economic factors for the climate transition and how it relates to us as consumers. The episodes are engaging and serious, a rarity in today’s « attention at any cost, even the truth » media environment. Thanks guys for a great podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PhillyMattR
    United Statesa year ago

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Trump’s Assault on the Clean Air Act and What Happens Next
Q: How has the Clean Air Act actually reduced greenhouse gas emissions since 2009?
The Clean Air Act has proven very effective at cleaning up harmful pollution from cars, trucks, and other transportation sources, contributing significantly to the decarbonization of the power sector as well.
Trump’s Assault on the Clean Air Act and What Happens Next
Q: What do you think is the headline here? How should we think about the announcement the Trump administration and President Trump just made?
They're going for the jugular, swinging for the fences, trying to essentially knock out the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate greenhouse gases.
The Outdated Economics Driving Trump’s Car Standards Rollback
Q: What are the implications of the trends observed in clean energy investments?
There's a notable divide in clean energy investments, with traditional sectors like clean electricity performing well while clean manufacturing, particularly in the EV supply chain, is seeing significant declines.
The Outdated Economics Driving Trump’s Car Standards Rollback
Q: Have recent economic studies changed the perception of fuel efficiency regulation?
Yes, recent studies indicate that consumers may not value future fuel savings as previously thought, suggesting that previous economic assumptions need re-evaluation and adjustment in policy making.
The Outdated Economics Driving Trump’s Car Standards Rollback
Q: How do consumers value future fuel savings when purchasing a vehicle?
Consumers seem to undervalue future fuel savings significantly, focusing instead on the initial costs rather than long-term benefits, which has been a key motivation for implementing fuel economy standards.

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What is Shift Key about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Addressing the critical energy transition away from fossil fuels, this podcast offers insightful conversations about the complexities of climate change and decarbonization. The hosts explore a wide array of topics including clean energy policies, economic implications of climate legislation, advancements in technology, and the evolving landscape of environmental regulations. With a blend of expert analysis and accessible discussions, listeners can expect both educational content and engaging debate surrounding contemporary environmental challenges and the multifaceted solutions that come with them. The podcast's strengths lie in its focus on actionable insights and the hopeful perspective it maintains towards future energy solutions, making... more

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