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Secret Life of Books

Sophie Gee and Jonty Claypole
Virginia Woolf
Jane Austen
Shakespeare
Wuthering Heights
Charles Dickens
Jane Eyre
George Orwell
Pride and Prejudice
Agatha Christie
Colonialism
Oscar Wilde
Hamlet
Mrs. Dalloway
Feminism
Wide Sargasso Sea
Victorian Society
1984
Dracula
Totalitarianism
Death

Every book has two stories: the one it tells, and the one it hides.The Secret Life of Books is a fascinating, addictive, often shocking, occasionally hilarious weekly podcast starring Sophie Gee, an English professor at Princeton University, and Jonty Claypole, formerly director of arts at the BBC. Every week these virtuoso critics and close friends take an iconic book and reveal the hidden story ... more

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This week we take a – somewhat unplanned – detour from our James Joyce sequence, which we put on pause while we finished reading the book! We're taking the chance to include in our series on modern Odysseys an episode we recorded a while ago on the 2... more

One evening in 1898, the 16-year-old James Joyce lost his virginity with a sex worker on a canal bank in Dublin. The event would become the main event in his autobiographical novel A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, published the same year as D... more

We’ve been saving this one up for a special occasion – a live conversation with Professor Emily Wilson, the celebrated translator of Homer’s Odyssey and the version on which Christopher Nolan’s film is said to be based. Emily has long been revered in... more

For this extra special A Podcast of One’s Own × The Secret Life of Books crossover, former Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Sophie Gee sit down to celebrate their shared love of books and reading.

Julia and Sophie compare notes on hosting... more

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Recent Guests

Emily Wilson
Translator of Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, professor of classics
University of Pennsylvania
Episode: Emily Wilson, the Odyssey and Why Epics Matter
Pasquale Toscano
Academic colleague, expert on Renaissance epic poetry
Independent scholar/Academia
Episode: Emily Wilson, the Odyssey and Why Epics Matter
Julia Gillard
Former Prime Minister of Australia; chair of Beyond Blue; chair of Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College London; chair of the Board of Governors at the Welcome Trust
Beyond Blue; Global Institute for Women's Leadership; Welcome Trust
Episode: A Podcast of One's Own x SLOB: Special Collaboration
Mary Beard
Classicist and professor
University of Cambridge
Episode: The Odyssey 1: Mary Beard on Homer’s masterpiece
Bret Walker
Australian barrister and equity specialist
Australian barristers
Episode: Bleak House by Charles Dickens - SLoB Book Club returns! (feat. Bret Walker SC)
Janice Hadlow
Author of The Other Bennet Sister
Author
Episode: The Other Bennet Sister with author Janice Hadlow
Namwali Serpell
Author and English professor; wrote On Morrison and critical essays on Toni Morrison
Harvard University
Episode: "On Morrison": a conversation with Namwali Serpell
Autumn Womack
Toni Morrison scholar, Princeton University
Princeton University
Episode: Saved from Fire: the Toni Morrison Archives
Devoney Looser
Regents Professor at Arizona State University and Austen scholar.
Arizona State University
Episode: Jane Austen's Birthday: why everyone wants to party with Jane

Hosts

Sophie Gee
Host; English professor with Princeton University; frequent collaborator with Jonty Claypole; leads deep literary analysis and contextual storytelling.
Jonty Claypole
Co-host; former director of arts at the BBC; brings industry experience, media production insight, and a collaborative dynamic to discussions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 514 ratings
  • Horrible voices

    Interesting subject matter but I just can’t listen to these people’s voices. The woman’s is particularly awful!

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    treskell
    Australia25 days ago
  • One of my favorite podcasts

    Thought-provoking, entertaining, the best

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lover of books and podcasts
    United Statesa month ago
  • Love love love!!

    I love SLOB. So grateful for Sophie and Jonty’s thoughtful discussions, deep knowledge, and conversational presentation. I feel like a world of literature has opened up to me thanks to their help.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    caseylee1111
    United States2 months ago
  • Sophie

    One of the best podcasts on books I have found. Exploring context, history and themes in an interesting and fascinating way. Well done Sophie and Jonty!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Janette SP
    Australia3 months ago
  • Amazing podcast

    I’m completely addicted and live in fear of the day I finish the entire back catalogue.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Egg91
    Australia4 months ago

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Deep dives make classic books feel newly relevant and thought-provoking.
Engaging, insightful conversations with a warm, witty rapport between hosts.
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Listeners praise scholarly context and accessible, entertaining delivery.
A few critiques note strong opinions; guests and topics still spark great discussions.

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#148
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#9
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#24
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#28
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#65
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Talking Points

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A Podcast of One's Own x SLOB: Special Collaboration
Q: Did they read the book or rely on AI summaries for their judging process, and how does that influence the Stella Prize decisions?
The guest describes using human judgment and critical discussion to assess works, with AI playing a controversial but limited role; the focus remains on human insight, storytelling craft, and the diversity of voices in the long and short lists.
The Other Bennet Sister with author Janice Hadlow
Q: What was your starting point for Mary's development in London?
The starting point was to explore what a bookish woman in that period might read and how education and access to new social environments could catalyze a shift in perspective and emotions, leading Mary toward a fuller sense of self.
The Other Bennet Sister with author Janice Hadlow
Q: How did you approach rewriting Pride and Prejudice from Mary Bennet's point of view?
Hadlow explains that she aimed to write a response to the pleasure the original book gave her, not to rewrite it outright, and that the Mary-centered focus allowed for a fresh examination of agency and vulnerability within Austen's world.
Saved from Fire: the Toni Morrison Archives
Q: How does your archival work change the way you read Morrison's fiction compared with a traditional literary approach?
She argues the archive reveals the book's living processes—drafts, revisions, and the decisions behind what ultimately appears—so reading becomes a practice of tracing craft decisions across time.
Saved from Fire: the Toni Morrison Archives
Q: So will you tell us a little bit about, for you, what makes Toni Morrison a classic?
Autumn explains that Morrison harnesses universal questions about morality, history, and voice while deeply embedding particular Black experiences, making her work endlessly revisitable and resonant with shifting interpretations.

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Two hosts explore classic and contemporary literature with deep contextual analysis, blending scholarly insight with playful banter. Each episode peels back the layers of a single book or author, tracing historical influences, production backstories, and the cultural impact of the work. Guests range from translators and critics to public leaders, enriching conversations with varied perspectives while maintaining a warm, accessible chemistry that helps both seasoned readers and newcomers discover new angles on familiar texts. A standout aspect is the show's ability to connect literary history to modern concerns—education, libraries, and the role of reading in public life—without losing sight of entertaining, thought-provoking discussion.

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