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Secret Life of Books

Sophie Gee and Jonty Claypole
Virginia Woolf
Jane Austen
Shakespeare
Wuthering Heights
Charles Dickens
Jane Eyre
Pride and Prejudice
George Orwell
Agatha Christie
Colonialism
Oscar Wilde
Hamlet
Mrs. Dalloway
Feminism
Wide Sargasso Sea
Victorian Society
1984
Dracula
Totalitarianism
Death

Every book has two stories: the one it tells, and the one it hides.The Secret Life of Books is a fascinating, addictive, often shocking, occasionally hilarious weekly podcast starring Sophie Gee, an English professor at Princeton University, and Jonty Claypole, formerly director of arts at the BBC. Every week these virtuoso critics and close friends take an iconic book and reveal the hidden story ... more

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Diana Reid
Screen adaptation writer and novelist
Self
Episode: SLoB & SLoBability: Diana Reid on adapting Austen's masterpiece for the screen
Alma Katsu
Author of horror novels including The Hunger, The Deep, and Incarnate
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Episode: Gothic horror in the age of AI: Alma Katsu on her new novel Incarnate
Maggie O'Farrell
Globally acclaimed novelist; author of Hamnet and Land
Episode: Secret Life of Reading (with Maggie O'Farrell and Ben Alderson-Day)
Ben Alderson-Day
Leading psychologist; Durham University professor; Readerbank project director
Episode: Secret Life of Reading (with Maggie O'Farrell and Ben Alderson-Day)
Charlotte Higgins
Guardian Chief Culture Writer and author of Ukrainian Lessons
The Guardian
Episode: Charlotte Higgins on Ukrainian Lessons: Art in a Time of War
Emily Wilson
Translator of Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, professor of classics
University of Pennsylvania
Episode: Emily Wilson, the Odyssey and Why Epics Matter
Pasquale Toscano
Academic colleague, expert on Renaissance epic poetry
Independent scholar/Academia
Episode: Emily Wilson, the Odyssey and Why Epics Matter
Julia Gillard
Former Prime Minister of Australia; chair of Beyond Blue; chair of Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College London; chair of the Board of Governors at the Welcome Trust
Beyond Blue; Global Institute for Women's Leadership; Welcome Trust
Episode: A Podcast of One's Own x SLOB: Special Collaboration
Mary Beard
Classicist and professor
University of Cambridge
Episode: The Odyssey 1: Mary Beard on Homer’s masterpiece

Hosts

Sophie Gee
Host; English professor with Princeton University; frequent collaborator with Jonty Claypole; leads deep literary analysis and contextual storytelling.
Jonty Claypole
Co-host; former director of arts at the BBC; brings industry experience, media production insight, and a collaborative dynamic to discussions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 580 ratings
  • Love love love SLoB

    I laugh, I learn, get to revisit old reads and discover new ones. And Sophie and Jonty strike just the right balance between jolly frivolity and serious book discussion.

    It’s fabulous.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LMGrimble
    Australiaa month ago
  • Love Books

    Thsi is a great podcast. Both Gee & Jonty are brilliant! I have just listened to the Bronte & Woolf series & I have already read the books & biographies of the writers but still learned so much. This podcast is such a joy & the presenters are such a blast! Love it! Love it!

    Now going thru every episode & the banter between these 2 is joyous! So wish that I had teachers like this when I was at school. Cannot recommend this podcast enough!

    Slowly going through the episodes. Up to Episode ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoanMCT
    Australiaa month ago
  • Forthright book reviews

    This podcast has grown on me so I am binge-listening to it now. The reviewers give honest and educated assessments of the books that give perspectives I’ve not previously considered.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Aunty RoRo
    Australia2 months ago
  • Love Books

    Thsi is a great podcast. Both Gee & Jonty are brilliant! I have just listened to the Bronte & Woolf series & I have already read the books & biographies of the writers but still learned so much. This podcast is such a joy & the presenters are such a blast! Love it! Love it!

    Now going thru every episode & the banter between these 2 is joyous! So wish that I had teachers like this when I was at school. Cannot recommend this podcast enough!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoanMCT
    Australia3 months ago
  • Horrible voices

    Interesting subject matter but I just can’t listen to these people’s voices. The woman’s is particularly awful!

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    treskell
    Australia3 months ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Deep dives make classic books feel newly relevant and thought-provoking.
Engaging, insightful conversations with a warm, witty rapport between hosts.
High-quality production and prep shine through in episode depth.
Listeners praise scholarly context and accessible, entertaining delivery.
A few critiques note strong opinions; guests and topics still spark great discussions.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#103
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#28
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#84
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#102
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#200
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#5
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

SLoB & SLoBability: Diana Reid on adapting Austen's masterpiece for the screen
Q: What was the collaborative dynamic like with the director and actors on set?
Diana acted as a third wheel, helping translate traditional language to screen and offering alternatives when on-set changes were considered, with input from Esme that deepened Marianne's growth and the love arc between Marianne and Edward.
SLoB & SLoBability: Diana Reid on adapting Austen's masterpiece for the screen
Q: How did Diana approach character development and the balance between satire and empathy?
She saw Austen as arcs satire into deeper complexity; characters begin ridiculous but grow, and the audience is guided to understand them by revealing their humanity through evolving actions and relationships.
SLoB & SLoBability: Diana Reid on adapting Austen's masterpiece for the screen
Q: What were the key questions about how to adapt Sense and Sensibility—modernize or stay authentic to the text?
The deliberate choice was to keep the language traditional to preserve the reading experience while finding universal emotional truths; the adaptation aimed to honor Austen rather than modernize at the cost of texture, balancing fidelity with a contemporary emotional connection.
Gothic horror in the age of AI: Alma Katsu on her new novel Incarnate
Q: What role does literature play in helping readers navigate our AI-saturated era?
Classics offer a vocabulary for examining big questions about identity, responsibility, and the consequences of manipulation, giving readers a framework to critique technology with historical and moral insight.
Gothic horror in the age of AI: Alma Katsu on her new novel Incarnate
Q: What drew you to focus on Dorothy as a single-narrator viewpoint, and how does that shape the reader's experience?
Dorothy's interiority allows readers to inhabit the moral and emotional stakes of the tech-driven world, making the fear and wonder of AI feel like a lived, intimate drama rather than a distant dystopia.

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Two hosts explore classic and contemporary literature with deep contextual analysis, blending scholarly insight with playful banter. Each episode peels back the layers of a single book or author, tracing historical influences, production backstories, and the cultural impact of the work. Guests range from translators and critics to public leaders, enriching conversations with varied perspectives while maintaining a warm, accessible chemistry that helps both seasoned readers and newcomers discover new angles on familiar texts. A standout aspect is the show's ability to connect literary history to modern concerns—education, libraries, and the role of reading in public life—without losing sight of entertaining, thought-provoking discussion.

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5. Charlotte Higgins
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7. Pasquale Toscano
8. Julia Gillard

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