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Scales of Change

Future Ecologies
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The climate crisis is the defining challenge of our lifetimes. Its scale defies comprehension, and conceals its true nature – not as one gigantic issue, but as many. Even those of us who accept the science and urgency of the climate crisis can struggle to act on our own knowledge and values. No matter who we are, our minds are subject to the Dragons of Climate Inaction: 36 different species of rationalizations – stories we tell ourselves consciously and subconsciously, shaping all of our decisions.In this series we explore the psychology of climate inaction, and prove that another story is possible. In each chapter of this 8-part series, we’ll uncover a different genus of dragon. Along the way, we’ll explore the art of turning carbon into rock, face mortality in the heart of the Amazon, and rekindle our connection with the Earth. With the help of each of our guests, we’ll challenge the different types of climate inaction, and discuss how we can scale up to meet this moment, together. S... more


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Scales of Change is a podcast mini-series, and a field guide to the "Dragons of Climate Inaction". more

2 years ago

This is our final chapter, and our last genus of Dragon: Immobilis – the dragons of Limited Behaviour. This genus contains only two species: Immobilis signum, or the Dragon of Tokenism, and Immobilis jevonsii, or the Rebound Effect. They are among th... more

3 years ago

In our sixth genus, we dive deep into the Dragons of Sunk Cost – the investments that work against our climate interests. more

3 years ago


5 out of 5 stars from 46 ratings
  • Excited to find this!

    I am a huge fan and enthralled listener to Future Ecologies so am excited to dive into this series and learn about my own dragons and how I can conquer them!

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    virginia pearl
    New Zealand2 years ago
  • Loved this series!

    It’s so puzzling: Most people know the climate crisis is real, but we’re all having such a hard time to act and change our ways. Why is that? In this series, Adam and Mendel introduce Robert Gifford’s great concept of the dragons of climate inaction. I love how this funny comparison makes the psychological side of the climate crisis come to life, and how the producers weave in sounds, voices and music. Don’t miss this series!

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    Germany2 years ago
  • Favorite podcast!

    You have to listen to this podcast from the beginning to truly appreciate its beauty, but I promise it’ll be worth it if you so!

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    United States3 years ago
  • Presenting & practicing

    Beautiful, moving and insightful. I see the creators not only presenting interesting information but also practicing eco-centric principles through the podcast, which is really what we (all of us) need to do and move towards. Thank you for this!

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    United States3 years ago
  • 5 stars!

    Educational and thought provoking - but in a very approachable way! I love the idea of “dragons.” I really appreciate the flow and music selection as well. Incredibly well done!

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    Sam Eleni
    Canada3 years ago

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