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Safer by Thorn
Trust and Safety
Generative AI
All Tech Is Human
Video Games
Child Safety
CSAM / Child Sexual Abuse Material
Thorn
Responsible Tech
Anthropic
Openai
Twitter
AI Safety
AI Safety By Design
Tiktok
Youth Wellbeing
DLC Leadership Program

What does it take to make the Internet a safer place? More importantly, who does it take? Safe Space explores the human side of trust & safety—featuring the leaders, thinkers, and builders working to protect online communities. Hosted by John Starr, VP of Operations and Strategic Impact at Thorn, this podcast dives into the personal journeys of those shaping the future of the digital world—one pol... more

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In this episode of Safe Space, hosts Cassie Coccaro and Pailes Halai talk with Alice Hunsberger, Head of Trust & Safety at Musubi. Alice has spent years working in trust and safety, with experience in online communities, dating apps, vendor operation... more

In this episode of Safe Space, hosts Cassie Coccaro and Pailes Halai sit down with Dr. Rachel Kowert, research psychologist and one of the leading voices connecting gaming, mental health, and trust and safety.

In this episode of Safe Space, hosts John Starr and Pailes Halai sit down with Lauren Jonas, Head of Youth Wellbeing at OpenAI, to talk about what it takes to design technology that truly supports and protects young people in the age of AI.

Join us for a fascinating conversation with Ryn Linthicum, who brings a unique perspective to AI safety at Anthropic. Ryn shares insights from time spent at TikTok and their current work on Anthropic's safeguards team, where they help build safety in... more

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Recent Guests

Rachel Kowert
Research psychologist focusing on gaming, mental health, and trust and safety
Independent researcher / psychologist
Episode: Dr. Rachel Kowert: Why gaming moderation is different
Lauren Jonas
Head of Youth Wellbeing at OpenAI
OpenAI
Episode: Lauren Jonas: Prioritizing teen well-being in AI safety
Ryn Linthicum
AI safety researcher with background in trust and safety at TikTok and Anthropic
Anthropic (Safety) / TikTok
Episode: Ryn Linthicum: Applying data, research, and psychology to AI safety
David Ryan Polgar
Attorney, educator, founder of All Tech is Human
All Tech is Human
Episode: David Polgar: Building Community Around Responsible Technology
Pailes Halai
Senior Manager of Key Accounts and Partnerships at Thorn
Thorn
Episode: Safe Space welcomes a new co-host, Pailes Halai
Del Harvey
Advisor, Public Speaker, and Coach for Trust and Safety Leaders
Twitter (former Trust and Safety leader); Advisor to Thorn
Episode: Del Harvey: Optimism and Collaboration in Trust & Safety
John Buckley
Head of Child Safety Policy at Google
Google
Episode: John Buckley: The Human Element in Trust & Safety

Hosts

Cassie Coccaro
Host of Safe Space, Thorn Communications
Pailes Halai
Senior Manager of Partnerships
John Starr
Host of Safe Space

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 8 ratings
  • Loved Del’s episode

    Really enjoying the pod series, but Del’s episode was fascinating and hope she’ll come back again.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Danoogie
    United Kingdom10 months ago

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Del's episode was fascinating and showed the depth of leadership in the field.
Guest diversity and concrete examples keep the content actionable and credible.
Listeners appreciate practical, real-world safety strategies.
The host's focus on human-centered safety and collaboration resonates with professionals.

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#58
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Apple Podcasts
#201
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Del Harvey: Optimism and Collaboration in Trust & Safety
Q: How do you approach hiring leaders for trust and safety? What do you look for beyond credentials?
Her core criteria are subject-matter expertise, genuine care about the problem, and curiosity about new approaches. She stresses empowering passionate people who care about impact and fostering a culture where leaders support their teams even when delicate decisions go wrong.
Del Harvey: Optimism and Collaboration in Trust & Safety
Q: What were the early days like at Twitter for trust and safety, and how did you decide what to prioritize?
She explains starting with a broad, hands-on approach, handling ticket queues and reports, and gradually creating policies and teams. Prioritization grew from actionable protection needs and the recognition that prevention and enforcement must be built into the product from the start rather than added later.
Del Harvey: Optimism and Collaboration in Trust & Safety
Q: Where did your entry point into trust and safety begin, and how did your career path evolve to leading teams at Twitter?
Del describes an evolving career—from lifeguarding and working with law enforcement to building a trust and safety program at a startup that became Twitter, and then growing that organization through scale. She emphasizes learning from varied roles and the value of hiring experts, which shaped how she built teams that could handle increasingly complex safety challenges.
Dr. Rachel Kowert: Why gaming moderation is different
Q: What advice would you give to someone trying to persuade leadership to invest in trust and safety?
Frame safety as a driver of consumer trust and long-term business value, show how toxicity harms retention and revenue, and reference hard data from ROI studies and industry collaborations to prove it's worth the investment.
Dr. Rachel Kowert: Why gaming moderation is different
Q: What makes gaming trust and safety different from social media?
Gaming is primarily a space for play and social interaction that unfolds in unique ways; approaches must preserve the playful, learning aspects while applying targeted safety measures, rather than adopting a purely restrictive framework.

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What is Safe Space about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A deep dive into the human side of online safety, moderation, and trust at scale. The conversations span safety-by-design in AI, youth wellbeing, policy implications for children, and practical leadership in high-velocity tech environments. Across episodes, listeners hear from researchers, industry leaders, and practitioners about building safer digital communities, balancing user needs with protection, and the collaborations that move safety forward—often tying safety initiatives to real-world programs, partnerships, and governance frameworks. A notable thread is the emphasis on leadership, cross-sector collaboration, and measurable safety outcomes, with several guests sharing concrete strategies for designing safer products, communities, ... more

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2. Lauren Jonas
3. Ryn Linthicum
4. David Ryan Polgar
5. Pailes Halai
6. Del Harvey
7. John Buckley

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