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ProHuman: Governing the Global AI Revolution

Foreign Policy
Artificial Intelligence
Global AI Governance
Foreign Policy
Future Of Life Institute
Lawzero
International Cooperation
United Nations
Nuclear Weapons
Global Governance
Mythos
Anthropic
Red Lines For AI

The promises and perils of artificial intelligence are mythic. It could help alleviate poverty and hunger and even cure cancer. But it could also cause massive job loss, spread deepfakes and disinformation, and lead to profound disruption to our modern way of life. And right now, all of that power is held by just a few companies, even though we all carry the risks. From Foreign Policy in collabora... more

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Right now, we’re all living through a grand experiment. The rise of artificial intelligence promises to profoundly impact humanity. While conversations about AI are often focused on technical issues, this transformative technology will shape all aspe... more

The artificial intelligence boom has already created extraordinary wealth and minted a new generation of billionaires. However, there are currently no mechanisms in place for AI’s massive profits to trickle down to the rest of us, even as it wouldn’t... more

Competition between the United States and China is fierce, but if we continue to see the artificial intelligence revolution as a race between two superpowers, then we’re putting humanity at risk. Cooperation is key to positive outcomes. With internat... more

Most global industries, including civil aviation, maritime transport, and agriculture, adhere to international safety standards. These standards and the behind-the-scenes organizations that set them are what make it safe for us to fly in an airplane,... more

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Recent Guests

Julia Morse
Associate Professor of Political Science at UCSB; expert on global governance
University of California, Santa Barbara; Oxford Martin AI Governance Initiative
Episode: ProHuman Institutions
Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein
Former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights; Elders member
The Elders / UAE governance partner
Episode: AI for ALL
Eugenio Garcia
Brazil's Director of Science, Technology, Innovation, and Intellectual Property
Brazil's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Episode: AI for ALL
Yolanda Lannquist
Global governance lead at Windfall Trust
Windfall Trust
Episode: AI for ALL
Pumza Fihlani
Reporter for BBC from South Africa
BBC
Episode: AI for ALL
Sam Ramadori
Co-president and executive director of LawZero, a Canadian nonprofit startup
LawZero
Episode: A Better Path
Inbar Bobrovsky
CEO of Technology Strategy Roleplay (UK charity)
Technology Strategy Roleplay
Episode: A Better Path
David Song
Senior researcher at Korea AI Safety Institute, leading internationally aligned risk management frameworks
Korea AI Safety Institute
Episode: Safety First
Stuart Russell
Professor of computer science at UC Berkeley and AI safety expert
UC Berkeley; Center for Human-Compatible AI
Episode: Red Lines

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Ibi Caputo
Senior Producer and Presenter; Host and senior producer/presenter for Foreign Policy initiatives (ProHuman) and related programs

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A Better Path
Q: Given the geopolitical dimensions, how likely is trans-border cooperation on AI governance, and what would practical cooperation look like?
Sam and Inbar discuss a two-level approach: high-level governance with rapid action and detection mechanisms, plus deeper cooperation with middle powers to share compute, talent, and safe-by-design frameworks, enabling sovereign AI development.
A Better Path
Q: 101, with you telling us more about LawZero's mission and what you are building.
Sam Ramadori explains LawZero as a not-for-profit initiative inspired by Yoshua Bengio, aiming to develop safe-by-design AI and empower middle powers to build sovereign capabilities, reducing dependence on a few frontier labs.
Red Lines
Q: How can governance keep pace with rapid AI development while encouraging beneficial innovation?
By adopting licensing architectures and international safety standards that constrain deployment until systems demonstrate verifiable safety and ethical behavior, while coordinating among major powers to avoid ad hoc, unilateral actions that fragment global oversight.
Red Lines
Q: What are the core red lines that should be internationally banned for AI systems?
The core red lines include enabling cyberattacks, developing weapons or biological capabilities, impersonation of humans by AI, and self-preservation behaviors that undermine human oversight; regulations should require verification of safety standards as a precondition for market access.

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This podcast tends to feature high-level policymakers, researchers, and AI safety advocates who discuss global governance, ethics, and practical frameworks for responsible AI development. Episodes frequently cover international collaboration, risk management, and the distribution of AI benefits, with emphasis on red lines, safety standards, and governance mechanisms that can operate across nations. Notable throughlines include safety-by-design approaches, licensing or guardrail concepts, and the role of mid-sized powers and international institutions in steering AI progress toward societal benefit. A standout trait is the panel-style conversations that pair seasoned politicians with technologists and policy experts to translate technical ri... more

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