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Poets & Thinkers

Benedikt Lehnert
Artificial Intelligence
Leadership
Human Agency
Superintelligence
Digital Technology
Art and Design
Social Media
Human Connection
Predictive AI
Ethics In AI
Education
Innovation
Mindfulness
Meditation
Discrimination
AI Governance
Korean Heritage
AI and Organizational Change
Cultural Fragmentation
Greatness

Poets & Thinkers explores the humanistic future of business leadership through deep, unscripted conversations with visionary minds – from best-selling authors and inspiring artists to leading academic experts and seasoned executives.

Hosted by tech executive, advisor, and Princeton entrepreneurship & design fellow Ben Lehnert, this podcast challenges conventional MBA wisdom, blending creative lea... more

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes24Foundeda year ago
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What  if we gave ordinary citizens the power to decide how public money is spent? Graça Fonseca did just that. With her pioneering vision, she built the world’s first national participatory budget, helped transform a crisis-era Lisbon into Europe’s e... more

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What if the most important thing a leader can (re)learn now is to be silly and playful? In a world obsessed with optimization and yearning for certainty, Gabriella White makes the case for a radically different kind of readiness and skill building in... more

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What happens to art when the systems designed to replicate it at mass can’t actually feel anything? In this conversation, Ben sits down with designer-turned-composer Sean Wolcott who draws a sharp lines between technology, knowledge and lived human e... more

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Can designing a movement get the smartest people to work on the biggest problems instead of disappearing into what one author calls “the Bermuda Triangle of talent”: consulting, tech, and banking?

In this episode, Ben sits down with Harald Dunnink, ... more

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Graça Fonseca
Chief Imagination Officer and co-founder of the Futura Foundation
Futura Foundation
Episode: The Future is Feminine: On who gets to imagine the future with Graça Fonseca
Gabriella White
Trained actor and interdisciplinary creative leader
Independent/Consultant
Episode: Human Conservationism: On improv, creative play and developing negative capability as leadership practices with Gabriella White
Sean Wolcott
Full-time composer and musician, owner of an analog recording studio in Washington state
Self-employed / Studio in Everett, Washington
Episode: Hollow Echoes: Why AI art will never have a soul with Sean Wolcott
Harald Dunnink
Designer and serial founder, co-founder of Momkai and School for Moral Ambition
Momkai; School for Moral Ambition
Episode: Make Doing Good Look Good: On designing for belonging, moral ambition and the pitfalls of privilege with Harald Dunnink
Andy Allen
Co-founder of Not Boring Software; former co-founder of FiftyThree; adjunct professor
Not Boring Software; FiftyThree
Episode: For The Culture: On beauty, AI slop, and what lasts when software companies die with Andy Allen
Jerry Colonna
Executive coach, author of Reboot and Reunion
Self-employed/Coach
Episode: Holder of Stories of the Heart: On radical self-inquiry and being a good leader in unsettling times with Jerry Colonna
Omari Souza
Assistant professor and author, researcher focusing on design justice and racism in design
University of North Texas
Episode: Design Against Racism: On the myth of design’s neutrality, lack of critical thinking and the future of design leadership with Omari Souza
Christina Goldschmidt
VP of Product Design at Warner Music Group; renowned designer and trauma-informed leadership expert
Warner Music Group
Episode: Brain Hacking & Trauma-Informed Leadership: Creating space for human ingenuity to flourish with Christina Goldschmidt
Tim Leberecht
German-American author, curator and entrepreneur; co-founder and co-CEO of the House of Beautiful Business
House of Beautiful Business
Episode: Against the Tyranny of Winners: On beautiful business in the AI age, the rise of “Supercuration”, and the end of efficiency with Tim Leberecht

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The Future is Feminine: On who gets to imagine the future with Graça Fonseca
Q: What does a Chief Imagination Officer actually do in practice?
The role focuses on bringing ideas to life, connecting communities, and imagining a future beyond urgent crises; it's about keeping space for long-term thinking while grounding decisions in human needs and collaborative processes.
The Future is Feminine: On who gets to imagine the future with Graça Fonseca
Q: What's broken in our current understanding of leadership, and what would a better version look like?
The relationship between leaders and people is broken, with many feeling left behind; trust and genuine engagement are essential, and leadership should connect with ordinary people's lives through participatory approaches and a long-term, imaginative perspective.
Human Conservationism: On improv, creative play and developing negative capability as leadership practices with Gabriella White
Q: If there's one piece of advice for the next generation entering the world, what would it be?
Don't be afraid to be ordinary.
Human Conservationism: On improv, creative play and developing negative capability as leadership practices with Gabriella White
Q: What is one of the most effective modalities for leadership development, and how do you deliver inspiration without a prescriptive checklist?
Improv and embodied practices are central; she emphasizes process over results, and creating spaces like a jazz band where everyone contributes their own strengths.
Human Conservationism: On improv, creative play and developing negative capability as leadership practices with Gabriella White
Q: What do you find is broken in the way we educate people or in leadership training, and why is a new approach needed?
The traditional model relies on predictability and certainties; she advocates for embracing uncertainty, playfulness, and embodied learning to reconnect people with their innate creativity and collaborative potential.

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What is Poets & Thinkers about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The conversations center on human-centric leadership in the age of AI, blending philosophy, design, policy, and creativity to reimagine business leadership. Across episodes, guests range from policymakers and designers to authors, technologists, and artists, all exploring humane approaches to governance, belonging, ethics, and culture in organizations and society. Noteworthy throughlines include the primacy of imagination over pure efficiency, trust and belonging in teams, trauma-informed and human-centered leadership, and critical perspectives on AI's role in work, creativity, and governance. The format tends to be unscripted and exploratory, often linking practical tactics with broader visions for a future where leadership is both art and... more

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