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Tempest
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Hosted by worldwide bestselling authors Victoria Aveyard (RED QUEEN series, REALM BREAKER series) & Soman Chainani (THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD & EVIL series), PLOT TWIST takes you behind the scenes of the biggest swings in our careers. Victoria’s TEMPEST, her very first novel for adults, an epic pirate fantasy… and Soman’s YOUNG WORLD, a red-hot young adult political thriller. Each week, we pull back the... more

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Soman and Victoria discuss the massive hack of the world’s most popular fan-fiction site and how it reveals clues to what’s ahead for authors. They also answer questions about how they plan sequels and whether an anti-AI publishing house could emerge... more

Is There an Optimist’s Case for AI in Art?

Soman lays out 5 optimistic scenarios for how AI could be used positively by authors, and Victoria tries valiantly to get onboard. They also discuss the potential career goals of a mid-career author, and st... more

Soman and Victoria lay out ten ways that the algorithm is destroying creative careers and the best ways to fight it. They also discuss world building tips and how to manage exposition in fantasy novels. Soman wants someone to hire him as the Dean of ... more

Soman and Victoria discuss a bombshell story from WIRED about the rampant use of AI by publishers and whether AI is inevitable in the workflow. They also discuss writing chronologically across multiple timelines and how to algorithmically target your... more

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Recent Guests

Veronica Roth
Author of The Divergent Series
Author
Episode: What Happened To YA? (with Veronica Roth)
Soman Chainani
Co-host and author often discussed in intro/outro; appears as a regular host on Plot Twist
Episode: How Do You Survive Social Media? (with Veronica Roth)
Rose Brock
Educator and professor of Children's and Young Adult Literature
Sam Houston State University
Episode: Can We Get Teenage Boys To Read Again?

Hosts

Victoria Aveyard
Author of major fantasy series, frequent host; co-leads with Soman Chainani on industry and craft topics.
Soman Chainani
Author and co-host, brings insight into YA and fantasy publishing, collaboration with Victoria Aveyard, and industry trends.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 187 ratings
  • Cozy and engaging

    Love the pod! Have been a fan of Victoria since Red Queen and started following her on socials. When I found out she was going to be on a podcast, I was immediately interested! Soman and her chemistry and banter is so natural and effortless and the topics are engaging. I do wish the hosts spend a little less time discussing personal goals and dedicate more time on the actual topic discussion! I appreciate their well thought out takes but increasingly, Soman feels more like he’s reading an essay... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    A_grad
    United States2 months ago
  • So helpful for writers

    As a writer, these conversations are so so helpful. Victoria and Soman also have the best banter and are so fun to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mdt_handstander
    Canada4 months ago
  • A must listen!

    This is my favorite podcast. It’s unconventional in that it doesn’t feel like they’re just doing this for money. The ads are few and far between and tailored to the content. I love listening to Victoria and Soman bicker and banter, but it’s also super informative on the behind the scenes of the publishing world. I’ve learned so much in such an entertaining setting.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    st_dph
    United States4 months ago
  • Love this!

    This is my first time on Apple Podcasts. Normally I watch this on YouTube while I study. I enjoy both reading and writing, this is both educational and entertaining. I may be biased as Victoria Aveyard is my favorite author and I absolutely gobble down any book she writes. Mr. Chainani and Ms. Aveyard is an amazing duo that can make anyone interested. They talk about on their views as a writer, and in one of the episodes they talk about the future as writers with AI “taking over” (But let’s face... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Booksandturtlesaremything<3
    Japan4 months ago
  • Insightful & playful!

    As a self published romance author looking to break into the traditional publishing space, I find Soman & Victoria’s insight SO helpful. Every week I tune in I feel like I’m getting the insider scoop. Plus they are funny and I find their relationship so sweet and fun. Thank you again for the Twistener shout out! 💗

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    K.Sinko
    United States5 months ago

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A few critique the balance between personal banter and topic depth, but overall praise the informative nature.
Many appreciate behind-the-scenes industry transparency and touring anecdotes.
Listeners praise the duo's chemistry, banter, and actionable publishing insights.

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Is the Algorithm Killing Authors?
Q: I'm a first-time novelist and I'm really struggling with this innate need to describe situations which tends to land me in moments of heavy exposition. What are your tips and tricks on finding moments to show, not tell?
Aveyard recommends reading screenplays, practicing economical writing, and asking what readers need to know at that moment. Chainani advises allowing a first draft to be messy, then tightening exposition during revision.
Is the Algorithm Killing Authors?
Q: As two extremely immersive world builders, are there resources you recommend to new writers to help develop the world?
Chainani recommends meditation to slow down and develop imaginative focus. Aveyard suggests studying geography with an atlas, learning history, and exploring Holly Lisle's world-building resources. Both emphasize reading richly imagined worlds.
Is There an Optimist’s Case for AI in Art?
Q: How do you ensure that the way you write, prose, dialogue, et cetera, resonates so well with younger people who have their own generational lingo and way of interpreting things?
Soman spends time with college students, teens, and younger relatives, and reads and watches contemporary work. He also tested Young World with teenage boys to assess whether its perspective felt authentic to them.
Is There an Optimist’s Case for AI in Art?
Q: What advice would you give an author at this stage in their career who wants to grow their readership?
Victoria recommends clarifying the goal, writing the next book, building an engaged social media community, and sharing the writing process. Soman adds that midlist authors can mobilize their existing super fans.
Did a Fanfiction Scandal Reveal the Future of Publishing?
Q: How do you decide whether to do a sequel to a book?
Chainani says sequel plans are often part of a book proposal, but decisions also depend on the publisher's interest, the author's passion, and timing. Aveyard says her sequels were generally planned as part of a larger story, while publishers may not commit to later books unless earlier ones find support.

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Frequently Asked Questions About PLOT TWIST

What is PLOT TWIST about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A weekly shows a candid look at the publishing world through the lens of two bestselling authors who front the conversations with sharp, practical insights. They cover industry trends, the craft and business of writing, publishing economics, touring, and the evolving role of technology (including AI) in storytelling. Listeners greatly value the duo's chemistry, actionable advice for writers and creators, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from tours and campaigns, making it a top pick for aspiring authors, editors, agents, and publishers seeking honest discourse and real-world guidance.

A standout element is the dynamic co-host pairing—an author duo who reveal process, decision-making, and market shifts with humor and candor. Episodes frequen... more

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