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Hosted by worldwide bestselling authors Victoria Aveyard (RED QUEEN series, REALM BREAKER series) & Soman Chainani (THE SCHOOL FOR GOOD & EVIL series), PLOT TWIST takes you behind the scenes of the biggest swings in our careers. Victoria’s TEMPEST, her very first novel for adults, an epic pirate fantasy… and Soman’s YOUNG WORLD, a red-hot young adult political thriller. Each week, we pull back the... more

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Soman is back this week and he and Victoria decode the mysteries and magic by which a book becomes a best-seller. They also debate how readers “self-inserting” has become an epidemic and the ideal word count for a fantasy novel. Soman is trying to st... more

Victoria and guest Veronica Roth discuss how they’ve survived the evolution of social media from the fun of unfiltered chatting on Twitter to the algorithmic nightmare we now found ourselves in. Also they talk about the myriad and complicated ways a ... more

Victoria and special guest Veronica Roth discuss how audiences are craving familiar stories at difficult times and what it means for them as authors who have left some of their work behind. Also they discuss release schedules and book titles. Victori... more

It’s YOUNG WORLD release week!! Soman and Victoria discuss the glories and stress of putting out a new book and surviving the first 7 days. Also they talk about writing characters with different identities than themselves and whether or not writing g... more

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Recent Guests

Soman Chainani
Co-host and author often discussed in intro/outro; appears as a regular host on Plot Twist
Episode: How Do You Survive Social Media? (with Veronica Roth)
Veronica Roth
Author of Seek the Traitor's Son and The Sixth Faction
Independent author / publisher activities mentioned
Episode: Are We In A Time Loop? (with Veronica Roth)
Rose Brock
Educator and professor of Children's and Young Adult Literature
Sam Houston State University
Episode: Can We Get Teenage Boys To Read Again?

Hosts

Victoria Aveyard
Author of The Red Queen and Realm Breaker series; frequently hosts and discusses publishing, marketing, and behind-the-scenes industry insights.
Soman Chainani
Author of The School For Good & Evil; brings industry perspective on writing, publishing, and marketing, with emphasis on YA and fantasy.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 133 ratings
  • Cozy and engaging

    Love the pod! Have been a fan of Victoria since Red Queen and started following her on socials. When I found out she was going to be going a podcast, I was immediately interested! Soman and her chemistry and banter is so natural and effortless and the topics are engaging. I do wish the hosts spend a little less time discussing personal goals and dedicate more time on the actual topic discussion! Love love, keep going!

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    A_grad
    United Statesa month ago
  • Great content but…

    I have enjoyed this podcast. I’ve listened to every episode the day it’s released. A couple of things I dislike: Victoria talks over Soman. She stopped before but she’s back to doing it and quite frequently. Since the volume is uneven, Soman gets drowned out during those moments. Also while I do like that the hosts have prepped and have notes, since their arguments are pretty long it definitely sounds like one or both of them are reading essays. Which- they are! So what started as a solid 4-5 ⭐️... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    coco Buddha
    United States2 months ago
  • Such a good host pairing!

    I watch this as much for the educational elements as for the dynamic between Victoria and Soman. The two are complete opposites and yet their friendship and banter make for such a compelling show! I look forward to listening every week.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LabradoodleNoodle
    Germany3 months ago
  • Great insight into the industry!

    This is the only podcast I listen to at regular speed

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tucci03
    Canada3 months ago
  • Essential Listening

    For anyone creative, authors especially, this show should be considered a must listen. The information shared about the creative process, publishing journey, navigation of financial and social pitflass is raw and honest. The show, by design, digs deeply into the nitty gritty while allowing the hosts to lay their emotions bare. If you're looking for motivation, insight and a guiding light - look no further.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dougdorda
    United States4 months ago

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Listeners appreciate practical, honest industry insights and behind-the-scenes storytelling.
Chemistry between hosts is consistently engaging for new listeners and longtime fans alike.
Many praise the show for motivating aspiring authors and demystifying publishing.

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#221
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Apple Podcasts
#131
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#184
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#218
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#232
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Talking Points

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How Do You Survive Social Media? (with Veronica Roth)
Q: Are big social media followings helping people get book deals or hurting the craft's credibility?
They acknowledge that big followings can grease the wheels and help visibility, but they caution that success still hinges on the quality of the work and the book's resonance, and that followings alone don't guarantee lasting credibility or sales.
Is Release Week the Best Week for an Author… or the Worst?
Q: How do you handle the pressure of reader expectations during release week, especially given the contrast between YA and adult markets?
Balance the rush of enthusiasm with the reality of scrutiny; stay grounded in the core story while engaging with readers in meaningful ways, and prepare for polarized responses without losing sight of the craft.
Is Release Week the Best Week for an Author… or the Worst?
Q: How do you deal with writing perspectives outside your own experience, such as a character with a different gender identity or ethnicity?
Do the work to inhabit the skin through life experience or thorough research; ensure the portrayal serves the narrative and is authentic, otherwise the audience will reject it.
Are We In A Time Loop? (with Veronica Roth)
Q: When it comes to publishing timelines, how does splitting a book across formats or releases affect deadlines?
The hosts explain that even when books seem finished or near completion, copy edits and coordinated releases require careful planning; the schedule can be tight but manageable with deliberate pacing and parallel projects.
Can We Get Teenage Boys To Read Again?
Q: So let me start by asking you a question, which is, in your time as an educator, can you take us through the evolution of how teenage boys have reacted to books from your point of view? Is it always been the same or has there been a change? What are you seeing on the ground?
Rose Brock discusses how the dynamic has persisted over decades, noting that the challenge isn't new and that teachers must adapt—via spaces where boys feel safe, and methods that acknowledge their realities—while acknowledging broader shifts in formats and engagement.

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A candid conversations-heavy show where two bestselling authors pull back the curtain on the publishing world, career pivots, and the craft of writing. Episodes frequently cover book covers, marketing, author-platform building, AI's impact on writing, editing, and the business side of publishing, all told with sharp banter and practical, experience-based advice. Noteworthy is the duo's willingness to tackle thorny industry topics—AI ethics, author rights, and the evolving landscape for YA and adult fantasy—while sharing behind-the-scenes tour stories and genuine perspectives on success, publishing timelines, and reader engagement.

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