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A podcast series about South Africa’s past, present, and future. Economic historian Johan Fourie and historical sociologist Jonathan Schoots interview social science scholars investigating fascinating questions about our country and continent and distil those lessons into practical policy suggestions today.

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If an enslaved person would pay above market price for their own freedom, why didn't the market produce abolition? How did a European trade good become a continent-wide arms race? Did Africa's underdevelopment and Europe's rise have the same cause? more

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Imagine you're a Nigerian law student studying for the bar. You open ChatGPT. It can tell you, confidently, the capital of Arizona. It cannot tell you how a Lagos magistrate is likely to rule. About 52 per cent of the open internet is in English. Fou... more

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In this bonus episode of Our Long Walk, host Johan Fourie welcomes Tyler Cowen for a live interview recorded on 13 March at Stellenbosch University, in front of an audience of students and faculty. Tyler Cowen holds the Holbert Harris Chair of Econom... more

Why have economists spent so long studying firms and markets while largely ignoring the family? Who really holds power inside a household, and what gives them that power? Is the decline of marriage a sign of social breakdown, or a quiet demand for so... more

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Recent Guests

Chinasa T. Okolo
Founder of TechnoCultura; AI governance researcher focused on the global majority; AI and emerging technologies policy specialist at the United Nations
TechnoCultura; United Nations
Episode: Can A.I. speak Igbo? with computer scientist Chinasa T. Okolo
Tyler Cowen
Economist; Holbert Harris Chair of Economics at George Mason University; founder of Emergent Ventures and Marginal Revolution.
George Mason University; Mercatus Center
Episode: BONUS: Live interview with Tyler Cowen
Alessandra Voena
Italian development and labor economist, professor of economics at Stanford University
Stanford University
Episode: When does marriage stop making economic sense? with Alessandra Voena
William Easterly
Professor of Economics, NYU; author of Violent Saviors, The Tyranny of Experts
New York University
Episode: Why do we find it so hard to care about the rights of other people? with economist William Easterly
Xolela Mangcu
Professor of Sociology and History and Interim Director of Africana Studies at George Washington University
George Washington University
Episode: Are we suffering from a crisis of imagination? with sociologist Xolela Mancgu
Christopher Eaglin
Assistant professor in the strategy area at the Fuqua School of Business at Duke University, who investigates entrepreneurial strategy.
Duke University
Episode: Who is more capitalist than Elon? with strategy expert Christopher Eaglin
Karin Pallaver
Associate professor of African history at the University of Bologna, with expertise in modern African history, Africa and the world, and Indian Ocean history.
University of Bologna
Episode: What do Africa’s old currencies say about our modern world? with historian Karin Pallaver
Jenny Trinitapali
Director of the Committee for International Social Science Research and Professor of Sociology at the University of Chicago
University of Chicago
Episode: What lives inside of 'don't know'? with demographer Jenny Trinitapoli
Cátia Batista
Professor of Economics at NOVA School of Business and Economics, and founder of the NOVAFRICA Research Centre.
NOVA School of Business and Economics
Episode: What returns when talent leaves? with economist Catia Batista

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Johan Fourie
Host from Stellenbosch University; often guides discussions with economics and history perspectives.
Jonathan Schoots
Co-host from Wits University; co-leads conversations with guests and develops policy-oriented angles.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 16 ratings
  • Brilliant

    Fascinating conversations that shine a much needed light on the social, economic & political complexities of the motherland.

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    United Statesa year ago

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Great for understanding how academic insights translate into real-world policy ideas.
Rigorous, well-researched discussions with influential scholars.
Thoughtful, idea-dense conversations that connect Africa's history to current policy challenges.
Dense but rewarding for listeners who enjoy deep dives into economics and development.

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Can A.I. speak Igbo? with computer scientist Chinasa T. Okolo
Q: What is artificial intelligence and what will it do to our lives, in terms of productivity, work, and social impact?
Artificial intelligence is a field of computer science aimed at making machines think and behave in ways similar to humans, with applications across predictive, generative, and agentic AI. In Africa and LMICs, AI is expected to augment many jobs by enhancing efficiency and decision-making, rather than outright replacing workers, though the specifics depend on occupation and context.
Are we suffering from a crisis of imagination? with sociologist Xolela Mancgu
Q: How do you think about weaving together biography and history to analyze the present better?
He describes biography and history as complementary tools for social analysis, enabling a more nuanced reading of contemporary politics by situating leaders within long-running political cultures and institutional developments.
Are we suffering from a crisis of imagination? with sociologist Xolela Mancgu
Q: Could you tell us a little bit about what motivates your approach both to biography as a mode of revealing and to situating individuals in deeper historical contexts?
Mangcu explains that biography helps reveal the lived history and institutions that shape leaders, arguing for embedding individuals in broader African modernity rather than isolated, colorless legacies. He emphasizes the need to understand leadership as a product of historical context and cultural values, not just personal traits.
When does marriage stop making economic sense? with Alessandra Voena
Q: What role do legal reforms around inheritance and divorce play in empowering women?
Legal reforms that equalize inheritance rights or ease divorce can strengthen women's economic security and bargaining power, but effectiveness depends on broader institutional and cultural factors; without a supportive context, reforms may not fully translate into increased female power.
When does marriage stop making economic sense? with Alessandra Voena
Q: How do cash transfer programs targeting women affect outcomes within the household?
Cash transfers to women have shown mixed results; some studies find improvements in women's bargaining power and potential positive effects on children's schooling, but overall evidence varies and success depends on implementation details like who controls the funds and the local context.

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This program consistently covers deep analyses of Africa's economic history, development, and policy implications, often through dialogue with leading scholars. Episodes explore topics like monetary history, the economics of marriage and family, development and aid critique, transportation economies, and Africa's modernity, all anchored in South African and regional contexts. A recurring strength is translating scholarly insights into actionable policy ideas, with a knack for connecting historical patterns to present-day challenges. The format leans into rigorous, idea-rich conversations with prominent academics and practitioners, making it valuable for listeners who want to understand complex issues shaping Africa's past, present, and futu... more

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2. Tyler Cowen
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5. Xolela Mangcu
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