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On Theme: Design Systems in Depth

Elyse Holladay
Design Systems
UI Development
Accessibility
Engineering
Product Development
Enterprise Design Challenges
Product Teams
Token Structure
Design Principles
User Experience
User Needs
Stakeholder Engagement
Technology and User Experience
Collaboration In Design
Design Language
Therapy Brands
Collaboration
Workshops In Design
Scalable Design Resources
H E B

Exploring how successful design systems get built, maintained, and deliver impact for their product teams. Go deeper than tokens and get more detailed than "it depends". Expect aha moments, actionable insights, thoughtful discussions, and spicy takes from accomplished design system practitioners. Hosted by Elyse Holladay.

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Recent Guests

Ben Callahan
Founder of agency Sparkbox, and host of The Question, which is a weekly collaborative learning experiment for design system practitioners.
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Episode: The Four Quadrants of Design System Impact, with Ben Callahan — #14
Daniel Henderson-Ede
Head of Design Technology and Systems at Mantis Co, specializes in accessible, scalable design systems.
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Episode: The flaws of the “accessibility is built in to the design system” argument, with Daniel Henderson-Ede — #12
Amy Ogg
Seattle based design system nerd and coffee lover, currently working at Therapy Brands.
Therapy Brands
Episode: Help, I'm starting a new design system job! with Amy Ogg — #11
Jeff Pelletier
Hybrid front-end developer focusing on design systems
Episode: Hand off the API: a design & build workflow for components, with Jeff Pelletier — #10
Smith Schwartz
Product design manager at Spotify, working on a design team positioned horizontally across the advertising business.
Spotify
Episode: Bye Purple! A redesign powered by local & global design system layers at Spotify, with Smith Schwartz & Tyce Clee — #09
Tyce Clee
Engineering manager involved with Spotify's design system and local system.
Spotify
Episode: Bye Purple! A redesign powered by local & global design system layers at Spotify, with Smith Schwartz & Tyce Clee — #09
Adriana Morales
Design Principal on H E B's mortar design system, focusing on scalable design and bridging gaps between design and engineering teams.
H E B
Episode: What happens when your system can’t support your flagship product?, with Adriana Morales — #08
Beau Ulrey
Leads a design crew at Oracle Health and focuses on creating AI-based tools for healthcare professionals.
Oracle Health
Episode: I’m a design system consumer now: lessons from the other side, with Beau Ulrey — #07
ToniAnn Drenckhahn
Senior Manager of Design Systems at BetMGM
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Episode: Building a multi-brand joint venture design system for BetMGM, with ToniAnn Drenckhahn — #06

Host

Elyse Holladay
Host of discussions focusing on building and implementing successful design systems, featuring expert insights from industry practitioners.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 7 ratings
  • Great podcast!

    Love the in depth conversations about design systems and the focus on more nuanced topics. Looking forward to the next episodes 😉

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    Nubeh
    Switzerland8 months ago

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Listeners appreciate the depth of conversations regarding design systems, with a particular emphasis on actionable insights that go beyond traditional understandings. Many express anticipation for future episodes and value nuanced discussions around complex topics.

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The flaws of the “accessibility is built in to the design system” argument, with Daniel Henderson-Ede — #12
Q: What role should design systems play in accessible product development?
Design systems should provide smart defaults, contextual examples, and integrate accessibility guidelines directly into documentation to support developers and designers in building accessible products.
All the things you shouldn’t do for design system success, with Dan Mall — #04
Q: How do you see successful design system teams managing their broad scope?
On the macro side, design system teams should not inherit responsibilities like design standards, as this often leads to burnout and the overextension of resources.
All the things you shouldn’t do for design system success, with Dan Mall — #04
Q: What are you excited about for the future of design systems?
I hope we get out of the discussion of component APIs and Figma variables and all this. There's more that we can do.

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