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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.

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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.

In this episode, they look at the covenants God has made with His people ... more

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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.

In this episode, Ken discusses some of the specific passages of Scripture... more

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From The Late Great Planet Earth to Left Behind and beyond, millions of Christians have subscribed, knowingly or unknowingly, to the conclusions of a theological system known as Dispensationalism, which makes claims not only about the end of the worl... more

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Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?

After ten episodes of explaining how he came to realize that the Reformation doctrine of salvation by "faith alone" was... more

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Matt Swaim
Director of Outreach at the Coming Home Network and Co-host with a background in Wesleyan faith.
Ken Hensley
Director of Pastoral Care at the Coming Home Network and Co-host, formerly a Baptist pastor.
Kenny Burchard
Director of Development at the Coming Home Network and Co-host, previously a Pentecostal pastor.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 165 ratings
  • Thank you!

    One of the best Catholic podcasts out there! It has been very, very helpful to me in my journey.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Angler Guy
    United Statesa year ago
  • 10/10! Great Podcast!!

    I love this podcast so much! The cohesion and chemistry between three of them is so good and it allows them to pass the beauty of the Catholic faith in a less complex and straightforward way filled with numerous moments of humor. Thanks for the work y’all do!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BenTC99
    United States2 years ago
  • Fantastic podcast

    I’m a curious Protestant and I’m so thankful to have found Matt & Ken’s podcast. So many of the questions they pondered during their journey to Catholicism are the same ones I’m pondering right now. I appreciate that they are very knowledgeable in every area they discuss and aren’t just sharing personal opinions. I’m thoroughly enjoying binge-listening to each episode! I can’t recommend this podcast enough!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lhuang86
    United States3 years ago
  • Among the Best

    Impossible not to revert or convert to the Catholic faith after you listen to this podcast. Thank you Matt and Kens, always very interesting and informative.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    nana_4x
    United States3 years ago
  • Easily my favorite show!

    Thank you so much for doing this show, Matt, Ken, and Kenny! It is easily my favorite show on any platform. Currently, I am discerning the call of the Holy Spirit to convert to Catholicism. I have listened to every single episode, at least twice, and have enjoyed the difficult journey from my low church reformed Baptist roots to the point now where I have “ceased to be Protestant.” While I have not yet joined a local RCIA class, I have a great desire to settle this momentous question of conversi... more

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    5
    Mgoets9941
    United States3 years ago

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Many find the content to be a valuable resource in their own spiritual journeys, especially those transitioning from Protestantism to Catholicism.
The hosts' personal stories resonate with those contemplating similar faith transitions, encouraging openness and curiosity about Catholic teachings.
Listeners appreciate the engaging and respectful dialogue on complex theological issues from the perspective of experienced hosts.
The podcast is particularly praised for its humor and relatability, making serious topics approachable for a diverse audience exploring faith.

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Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part II - On the Journey, Episode 178
Q: What is the Gospel from a Catholic perspective?
The Gospel involves faith leading to obedience, and both are essential for receiving God's blessings as showcased through biblical figures such as Abraham, Moses, and Noah.
Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part I - On the Journey, Episode 177
Q: How did the three of us, each in his own way, come to abandon the classic Reformation conception of justification?
The speakers share their journeys of how they shifted from traditional Protestant beliefs to the Catholic view, particularly through their struggles with understanding justification and faith.
On the Journey, Episode 168: Does Sola Scriptura Make Sense? – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part X
Q: How do Bible only Christians respond to the argument about the canon of scripture?
They typically say that Christians have always known which books belonged in the Bible or that over time, the Holy Spirit led the Church to recognize which writings were inspired, but this is historically inaccurate.
On the Journey, Episode 166: Is Sola Scriptura Historical? – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part VIII
Q: What are three or four things I need to do now to grow as a Christian?
You should begin to pray, read your Bible, attend a class at church for the right interpretation of the Bible, and head toward baptism.
On the Journey Bonus Episode: Three Questions and an Invitation
Q: Can you name a pastor who converted to Catholicism that encouraged you?
Ken mentions Scott Hahn as a significant encouragement during his journey, having engaged in theological discussions with him.

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